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What is a Realistic Solution to Fix the Portal?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:22 pm
The current version of the transfer portal was instituted in response to Covid so that players who were on teams that decided not to play could transfer and play immediately. Prior to that, except for grad transfers, players had to sit out a year. Covid hysteria is long gone, yet the portal is still here. Most seem to think that the quality of play is down. The portal is why. Schools invest lots of time and money developing players, and then because they develop a good college football player, he will transfer to the highest bidder. All while the team that spent the time and money to train him is left with nothing. In the business world you have non-compete clauses that limit this. Prior to covid you had essentially the same thing with players having to sit a year. Most coaches and fans seem to have come to the conclusion that the portal is a pox on college football. So….
What is the solution? Is there a solution? Or has pandora’s box been opened?
Or will change only happen if people stop watching and revenue declines?
What is the solution? Is there a solution? Or has pandora’s box been opened?
Or will change only happen if people stop watching and revenue declines?
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:23 pm to captdalton
Go back to not allowing immediate transfers.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:23 pm to captdalton
One portal in 5 years and you sit a year after that
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:25 pm to captdalton
quote:Multi-year contracts that have been collectively bargained by a players union in the new super league that’s coming.
What is a Realistic Solution to Fix the Portal?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:29 pm to captdalton
Make it honest.
If a player wants to portal at any time, he does.
Give every team in the country a max dollar amount that they can bid every year, and a max number of bids they can make.
The teams that want that player can bid. The player gets to choose the bid he likes. Every team that made a bid just loses that bid, but keeps the dollar amount for the next bid.
ETA: for every player that a team loses to the portal, they get to make an extra portal bid in that cycle and are allowed to spend an extra dollar amount equal to what their lost player went for.
If a player wants to portal at any time, he does.
Give every team in the country a max dollar amount that they can bid every year, and a max number of bids they can make.
The teams that want that player can bid. The player gets to choose the bid he likes. Every team that made a bid just loses that bid, but keeps the dollar amount for the next bid.
ETA: for every player that a team loses to the portal, they get to make an extra portal bid in that cycle and are allowed to spend an extra dollar amount equal to what their lost player went for.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:30 pm to captdalton
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Or will change only happen if people stop watching and revenue declines?
Apparently this isn’t going to happen. This has been an interesting and exciting year unlike before. I understand why big schools don’t want to lose their backup players but the kids want to play and they can do that now.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for teams who used to stockpile players and sometimes was to keep other teams from getting them. Scholarship limits helped stop some of that but the portal has put a serious hurt on that line of thinking.
I’ll be glad to see different teams competing instead of the same 3 or 4 every year, it was getting boring.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:32 pm to mrbroker
It should not open until after the playoffs.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:32 pm to captdalton
Right now there’s a federal injunction against prohibiting transfers d/t ongoing litigation. So that’s going to have to be resolved first before any changes are made.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:52 pm to Clark14
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I have a hard time feeling sorry for teams who used to stockpile players and sometimes was to keep other teams from getting them. Scholarship limits helped stop some of that but the portal has put a serious hurt on that line of thinking.
There is a huge difference in the amount of money that the Ohio States, Alabamas, and Texas of the world spend on facilities and support staff than do the Marshalls, Toledos, and Kennessaw States of the world. Players at LSU have access to so many more resources than do players at Nicholls State.
There are two reasons some schools put more players in the NFL than others. One, they start off with better recruits. But two, they develop those players from high school players to draft ready college players.
There are cases of a Pevia transferring from a New Mexico State to Vanderbilt and starting. But there are a lot more examples of 3 star recruits spending a couple of years at a top power 4 school and developing into a quality player who then transfers to another school, often smaller; to start. The schools that developed those guys have a lot of time and money invested in them.
Since it is all about money and this is a business now, should schools be able to bill a player for this if he decides to transfer?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:06 pm to captdalton
the portal is not from covid you dumbass.
the only solution is to turn into formal pro ball.
college football as it was is now gone for P4 teams.
anything that is not formalized pro ball is going to be unstable.
if the NCAA actually tried to crack down on this now, then the P4 would break away.
the only solution is to turn into formal pro ball.
college football as it was is now gone for P4 teams.
anything that is not formalized pro ball is going to be unstable.
if the NCAA actually tried to crack down on this now, then the P4 would break away.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:06 pm to captdalton
My solution would be you can transfer freely:
after 3 years
when you want an undergraduate degree
when a head coach leaves/ is fired.
after 3 years
when you want an undergraduate degree
when a head coach leaves/ is fired.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:07 pm to 3down10
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Go back to not allowing immediate transfers.
You can't. Pretty sure they already lost that lawsuit
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:22 pm to Miznoz
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the portal is not from covid you dumbass.
The elimination of them having to sit out, which has caused this free for all, is a direct result of covid.
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The portal launched on October 15, 2018. New regulations adopted in 2021 allow student-athletes in D-I football, men's and women's basketball, men's ice hockey, and baseball to change schools using the portal once without sitting out a year after the transfer, creating uniform transfer rules for all NCAA sports across all divisions.
The change that turned the portal into the shitshow it is now, which eliminated having to sit out, was in response to covid. Dumbass.
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The 2020 Covid pandemic brought uncertainty for the rules of eligibility. The NCAA Board of Governors, which is the highest governing body within the NCAA, came together in 2020 and granted student-athletes a year of eligibility if their season was shortened by the abrupt end of the spring sports seasons. In 2021, the board sat down again and evaluated the Transfer Eligibility Rule. Members voted to allow student-athletes a one-time transfer with the elimination of the redshirt year requirement.. In 2022, the NCAA was faced with Covid eligibility questions again. This was because those athletes who were eligible in the 2020-2021 academic year faced many Covid challenges. The board made the decision to give “flexibility” to those athletes’ eligibility years. Therefore, due to the disruption caused by Covid, student-athletes were allowed to extend their eligibility by two years to make up for seasons that were lost and or impacted again by the 2021-2022 academic year
Switching Teams: Inside the Transfer Portal
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:34 pm to captdalton
NCAA or similar organization need a plan then seek political action in Washington to pass appropriate legislation for the plan.
1. I suspect a simple revenue sharing plan with the athletes generating that revenue.
2. New governing body to oversee new plan
1. I suspect a simple revenue sharing plan with the athletes generating that revenue.
2. New governing body to oversee new plan
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:37 pm to captdalton
I have no problems with the portal..kids should be allowed to leave and go play somewhere else..
But they should have to sit out a year.. without losing a year of eligibility.. they can practice, everything.. just can’t play for a year..
Idk if this would be allowed by judges tho..
But they should have to sit out a year.. without losing a year of eligibility.. they can practice, everything.. just can’t play for a year..
Idk if this would be allowed by judges tho..
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:42 pm to ukraine_rebel
There's really nothing you can do to counter what has happened to college football.
Collective bargaining agreements
; fat chance. NIL deals are from "outside" the university. Elon Musk could offer someone 50 million dollars if he wants, and there's no law to prevent him from doing it, or someone from taking it.
As for transferring- if you could leave Nicholls for Harvard Law, or Georgia Tech Engineering, on full scholarship because they want you, you'd do it in a heartbeat. That's basically what is going on with the portal. If you try to block the player, he's going to say you are unjustly preventing him from pursuing the chance to better himself.
The only way you can force a change is to change the entire system; the schools will collectively have to agree that they won't take players who exceed a set amount, and stick to that. But the schools with more resources at hand won't do that, because they want to win.
Phil Knight with Oregon could make a mockery of this system, but hasn't. And that's because he has the business sense to not antagonize other Nike customers (ie other schools) too much that he loses their business.
Soon, there are going to be years when schools might conspire to bankrupt other schools' NIL deals- drive up the bids but still allow, say, Alabama to get everyone. Then next class they go hard after people, and if Alabama wants them too, they're going to start paying tons. It will take more than a couple rich trial lawyers to annually score the top class.
Collective bargaining agreements
; fat chance. NIL deals are from "outside" the university. Elon Musk could offer someone 50 million dollars if he wants, and there's no law to prevent him from doing it, or someone from taking it. As for transferring- if you could leave Nicholls for Harvard Law, or Georgia Tech Engineering, on full scholarship because they want you, you'd do it in a heartbeat. That's basically what is going on with the portal. If you try to block the player, he's going to say you are unjustly preventing him from pursuing the chance to better himself.
The only way you can force a change is to change the entire system; the schools will collectively have to agree that they won't take players who exceed a set amount, and stick to that. But the schools with more resources at hand won't do that, because they want to win.
Phil Knight with Oregon could make a mockery of this system, but hasn't. And that's because he has the business sense to not antagonize other Nike customers (ie other schools) too much that he loses their business.
Soon, there are going to be years when schools might conspire to bankrupt other schools' NIL deals- drive up the bids but still allow, say, Alabama to get everyone. Then next class they go hard after people, and if Alabama wants them too, they're going to start paying tons. It will take more than a couple rich trial lawyers to annually score the top class.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:42 pm to captdalton
You can’t fix the portal issue without fixing the NIL issues.
Starters would not be transferring if there wasn’t a payday waiting on them at another school. Not suggesting eliminating money for players, but it is undoubtedly the biggest driving force.
Starters would not be transferring if there wasn’t a payday waiting on them at another school. Not suggesting eliminating money for players, but it is undoubtedly the biggest driving force.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:49 pm to Miznoz
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You can't. Pretty sure they already lost that lawsuit
They didn't lose it, they settled it.
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