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re: What is a "dual threat" QB in your eyes?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:15 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:15 pm to DawginSC
If the defense has to adjust significantly to account for the QB’s threat to run, then he’s a dual threat.
So if they spy him or keep the defensive line in contain on passing downs he’s probably a dual threat.
So if they spy him or keep the defensive line in contain on passing downs he’s probably a dual threat.
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Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:43 pm to Caimani
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by Caimani
You’re kidding…right? That guy can’t complete a forward pass. How embarrassing.
You are one of the reasons why so many of us keep lobbying Chicken for a sweeping block feature.
You're pathologically ignorant .... a compulsive shite stirrer who usually gets it blatantly wrong on just about everything, and you rarely add anything of value to this community.
These, below, are his passing numbers so far this season which, when combined with his rushing numbers makes him the sheer epitome of, the definition of, a dual threat QB. And he's only a freshman. Before he's done he'll have a 3000/1000 season playing a SEC schedule. His QBR will skyrocket next season when his first four game interception numbers, as a freshman this season, are not weighing him down.
But you go ahead and try to argue your asinine perception as valid. You obviously lack any self-awareness, to a sociopathic degree and you do it publicly. Now THAT'S embarrassing. I'm almost embarrassed for you.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 12:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Jayden Daniels
Much better example than Joe Burrow.
There's simply not many true dual threats. They have to be able to really beat consistently with either passing or running.
For example, Milroe is not a DT QB. He won't beat you passing. Not sure Bama has ever had a great dual threat QB (possibly Joe Namath? but not really)
Burrow is a good runner because he's not a great runner. He's a great passer. As such, defenders will leave many lanes open for him to run because they don't see him as a runner and need to defend his passes. He's fast for his size and durable. Tough to bring him down once he gets moving. Surprisingly fast but he ain't fast fast.
Daniels is a true DT which makes his running and his passing that much better than it would be otherwise. He's difficult as hell to defend.
See Lamar Jackson. Steve Young was probably the best ever.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 1:35 pm to theballguy
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Steve Young was probably the best ever.
Elway > Young
You've summed it up nicely though.
Archie Manning also was a great dual threat QB.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 1:49 pm to Caimani
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Black
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I didn’t know Josh Allen was Black…that for clearing that up Moron.
Got one. Nice.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:05 pm to AUTubaHerd
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If the defense has to adjust significantly to account for the QB’s threat to run, then he’s a dual threat. So if they spy him or keep the defensive line in contain on passing downs he’s probably a dual threat.
Defenses did that to Robby Ashford. He still couldn't pass worth a lick so he was only one threat.
Fast QB /=/ DT QBs
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:21 pm to AUTubaHerd
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If the defense has to adjust significantly to account for the QB’s threat to run, then he’s a dual threat.
So if they spy him or keep the defensive line in contain on passing downs he’s probably a dual threat.
If their defense is able to spare the players from their secondary to focus on the run, are they a dual threat or a run threat?
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:27 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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You have no clue what you're talking about
Okay.
I don't think a QB who is not a capable passer can be a good QB unless they are a triple option QB.
I don't think Riley Leonard is a capable passer.
I believe he's one dimensional due to his lack of passing ability.
Feel free to disagree. But yelling about how you think I'm stupid is not going to somehow convince me that a guy who barely cracked 2000 yards passing with a 139 passer rating in a 12 game regular season is a good passer or a good QB.
He's not a capable passer. I don't think you can be a "dual threat" unless you can both pass and run. He can't pass.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:30 pm to DawginSC
Enough Rizz to romance the coaches daughter and wife at the same time.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:36 pm to DawginSC
Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, Vince Young.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 2:43 pm to 3down10
quote:Every year this topic comes up and people still want to equate running QBs to dual threat QBs.
If their defense is able to spare the players from their secondary to focus on the run, are they a dual threat or a run threat?
What is a "threat"? To me it means a reasonable worry. Are we worried about a prank bomb threat from kids trying to get out of an exam? No. Should someone be worried if an opposing country keeps stacking their arsenal with nukes? Yes.
Is 10-30 for 69 yards passing a passing threat? No. Those 10 completions didn't force the DC's hand. Could the shite passer get lucky on blown coverage from time to time sure, but the DC will be hard pressed away from changing his coverage to counter his arm over a few misalignment plays.
Jayden Daniels was a pure DT Quarterback. He made defenses pay if they aimed to blitz him, and then he did the same if they wanted him to pass. He gashed people running up the middle all night long and threw dimes whenever he needed to make a play. That's DT. or Duality in Doom.
The 2022 Auburn vs LSU game was a great example of Dual threat versus a Running Threat QB.
Robby Ashford dumb lucked into a quick 14-0 lead over LSU thanks to two busted coverage, receiver wide-open plays.
Jayden was a DT QB that came back and won the game over Robby Ashford with his arm and legs.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:20 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Archie Manning also was a great dual threat QB.
Definitely and that grumpy frick, Fran Tarkenton.
This post was edited on 12/29/24 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:37 pm to DawginSC
Manziel
Vick
Lamar Jackson
Cam
Jayden Daniels
Guys you had to respect their ability to run as much as their ability to pass
Vick
Lamar Jackson
Cam
Jayden Daniels
Guys you had to respect their ability to run as much as their ability to pass
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:51 pm to DawginSC
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I don't think Riley Leonard is a capable passer.
I believe he's one dimensional due to his lack of passing ability.
Ok, Georgia will destroy Notre Dame because Leonard sucks. Feel better now??
Posted on 12/29/24 at 3:57 pm to jangalang
You guys are arguing semantics. A DT uses his legs. A good DT you have to adjust to. A shite DT, you know he can’t throw so you load the box and make him throw to win. Robby was a shite DT.
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:11 pm to JayAg
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A shite DT,
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You guys are arguing semantics
Maybe but its more accurate just to label a running QB for in their own category. A shite passer does not present the same problems as a dual threat.
Also, one dimensional passers like Ryan Mallet are not called dual threat so why is a one dimensional runner called dual threat? There is meaning in "dual".
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:30 pm to jangalang
One can call Leonard whatever they want. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s been productive for them Not great or elite but most college coaches would take his production in totality. He helps his team win . Everything else is conversation
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:36 pm to zdfger
Vick, Jackson, air McNair, cam newton in college, Tebow in college
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:37 pm to Omahawgs15
Jayden Daniels, Kyler Murray, Johnny cocaine football
Posted on 12/29/24 at 4:50 pm to DawginSC
Decent passer and really good or great runner. Mike Vick is a prime example.
I don't know what you call players like Jayden Daniels but doing both at an extremely high level is rare.
I don't know what you call players like Jayden Daniels but doing both at an extremely high level is rare.
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