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re: What happened to the Auburn program , to be so bad

Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:24 pm to
Posted by The Albatross
Member since Mar 2021
864 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:24 pm to
I get it. This site can be a difficult place to find honest discussion, and a lot of people are assholes just for the sake of it. My entire family is Auburn fans, so I pull for them more than most teams.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:26 pm to
I don't take it as attacks on me most of the time by any fanbase other than the Cult and occasionally UGA. It is an attack on the truth in my opinion. That makes to dig in and push back.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

Not everyone is attacking you.
Not everyone is attacking Auburn either. But some people are on nonstop defense mode and it renders them incapable of carrying on a civil discussion. Simply explaining what outsiders see when they view Auburn and their Administration’s dysfunction over the years should not be an automatic battle royal in threads.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:34 pm to
Come on Iron... it is rich and down right humorous that these guys know so much about the inside workings at Auburn.
If their brains were made if dynamite it wouldn't be enough to blow their hats off!!!!
Posted by Referee
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2021
3010 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

It has been a rocky start at Auburn for the head coach, but he can at least take solace knowing it reportedly isn't a surefire thing that he will be fired after the season.


TPTB appear to be backing off.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3418 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:02 pm to
Albert Means, Gene Jelks, Antonio Langhum, Dubose sex scandal, Stalling forced to retire, Lang, Kirk, womens track team bookstore questionable charges, misuse of free text books, Franchione, Tyrone Beamans slush fund, 16 athletic teams were penalized for textbook fraud. All since 1993 and I didn't address the stipper football coach or Whimp!
Fat Al has come closer to the death penalty than any other school in the SEC!
Aubie says you can stick all those deserved and underserved trophies up your big fat arse and truly could care less how many you have or claim.


Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Not everyone is attacking Auburn either. But some people are on nonstop defense mode and it renders them incapable of carrying on a civil discussion. Simply explaining what outsiders see when they view Auburn and their Administration’s dysfunction over the years should not be an automatic battle royal in threads.



Nobody is more critical of Auburn than Auburn fans. Sometimes to the extreme. AU fans have never avoided the truth and most of us embrace it. The best example of me battling the DA remarks was "the list" two years ago. I knew the truth and had the list, wasn't going to post it. What made me publish it was the narrative by some on here that Steele was the only person a dysfunctional Auburn Administration was going to talk to. I kept posting the list to explain what had gone on and how Harsin was selected. To this day many in the "Cult" reference this "secret list" to try and say I am FOS. It is not an issue with me, but I enjoy rubbing their nose in the truth.

PS-I didn't like most of the candidates on the list.
Posted by StroKat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2018
415 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 9:55 pm to
Reminds of the LOLsu program
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14921 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

Nobody is more critical of Auburn than Auburn fans. Sometimes to the extreme. AU fans have never avoided the truth and most of us embrace it. The best example of me battling the DA remarks was "the list" two years ago. I knew the truth and had the list, wasn't going to post it. What made me publish it was the narrative by some on here that Steele was the only person a dysfunctional Auburn Administration was going to talk to. I kept posting the list to explain what had gone on and how Harsin was selected. To this day many in the "Cult" reference this "secret list" to try and say I am FOS. It is not an issue with me, but I enjoy rubbing their nose in the truth.

PS-I didn't like most of the candidates on the list.


The idea of a list is only good if they wanted the job. If they back off then it is back to square one. But firing someone first and then that sure hired decided to back off then it is what I think happened and ended with Harsin.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

The idea of a list is only good if they wanted the job. If they back off then it is back to square one. But firing someone first and then that sure hired decided to back off then it is what I think happened and ended with Harsin.


It never got to the point that anyone turned them down, some might have claimed they did after it was known they interviewed. The process never got that far before it was taken away from them. No, they ended up with Harsin because Greene was the sole committee for the selection. Harsin was the first- and only-person Greene talked to for the job. That is why he is gone now.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14921 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

It never got to the point that anyone turned them down, some might have claimed they did after it was known they interviewed. The process never got that far before it was taken away from them. No, they ended up with Harsin because Greene was the sole committee for the selection. Harsin was the first- and only-person Greene talked to for the job. That is why he is gone now.


Why was there no one checking on Greene about whom he has interviewed? That is why it was a bad chain of command. He should have talked to boosters and others to get a final approval. That was surprising that it never happened that way. Arkansas did the something similar. Their former assistant AD made the decision to hire Chad Morris. It was a done deal without others knowing it. Already signed the contract. That was so sickening to see that happened that way.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 9/29/22 at 11:52 pm to
That is why he pissed in his own wheaties. Gogue gave him the authority and he ran with it.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:18 am to
quote:

Albert Means, Gene Jelks, Antonio Langhum, Dubose sex scandal, Stalling forced to retire, Lang, Kirk, womens track team bookstore questionable charges, misuse of free text books, Franchione, Tyrone Beamans slush fund, 16 athletic teams were penalized for textbook fraud. All since 1993 and I didn't address the stipper football coach or Whimp!
Fat Al has come closer to the death penalty than any other school in the SEC!
Aubie says you can stick all those deserved and underserved trophies up your big fat arse and truly could care less how many you have or claim.



This is why I come here. My gawd what a melt.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12184 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:08 am to
Auburn sold it's soul for Cam. The devil cashed in.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3800 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 6:17 am to
Georgia happened. There's too many cooks in the kitchen when Georiga and Alabama are elite.

Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7909 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:03 am to
Once Texas A&M took over the SEC they had no chance
Posted by wareagle4
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:33 am to
frick u
Posted by wareagle7298
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2013
1424 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:37 am to
quote:

They will continue to have problems until the athletic department is run like a business from top to bottom. Right now it’s run like a rural town hall


This really does sum it up. I look at the town itself, and how it has grown and changed over the last 20 years (and sometimes not in a good way), and yet the athletic department is the same old hinky-dink mom and pop bullshite.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9684 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:10 am to
Outside influences. Auburn is always gonna be up and down. Always has been. Pat Dye was about as stable a regime as they ever had but they didn't win national titles. Tuberville caught a humungous break when just as he was starting his Auburn tenure Bama was handed the sanctions and he would get every player in the state. there was one season where two receivers named like Obamanu and Aramoshodu and Auburn got BOTH and they both said they don't want to play on a team with a two year bowl ban and 21 scholarships taken away. After Bama got back on its feet he went down 36-0 and left town.

Auburn has produced some of the most successful alums in the state. That's not always a good thing when it comes to football.

You also had the Kirby Smart factor. Auburn, for years killed it in recruiting Georgia. Not UGA cast offs but Georgias top players. Kirby has shut that down and Saban is only 100 miles away, that spells trouble.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:17 am
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
1829 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 1:23 pm to
By back I mean a competitive football team again that is likely to be an 8-10 win team. I’m not saying we are all a sudden 1990s Tennessee again. Outside of Georgia or Alabama we can compete
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