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re: What does profiting off your likeness actually mean?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:43 am to tylerdurden24
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:43 am to tylerdurden24
Aren't you the guy who thinks Saban and Smart are just better salesmen than all the other coaches. 
They are better at selling their vision, or some stupid arse shite like that.
They are better at selling their vision, or some stupid arse shite like that.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:43 am to Ole Ag
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What does profiting off your likeness actually mean?
Seriously. You can't infer what this means?
Having your likeness in a video game.
Being in a commercial.
Advertising yourself or your entity as yourself.
etc.
Some college athletes would like to give lessons/training to others for pay. Currently, they aren't able to do that under the NCAA.
A lot of people are just thinking about Basketball and Football players with this new bill. Basketball and football players are probably 5% of the athletes in concern.
This goes to helping a lot of college athletes make it through school. And don't think it would just be free business, open market. They would cap the earning for college athletes. It would be governed, not just willy nilly football players making hundreds of thousands a year - it's silly to think that would be the case.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:45 am to bigDgator
I might be? But I don’t follow what you’re implying about what I said
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:56 am to WG_Dawg
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Anyone who thinks this is a good thing for the sport is delusional.
I get that but the school using a players face to sell tickets is the school profiting off of his likeness and not paying him for it.
If they use players to make money, the player should be compensated. If LSU's punter wore #9, nobody would buy it. Joe Burrow should get some money for sales of 9 jerseys while he is at LSU.
I dont think it should be the wild west. But if the NCAA doesn't cave a little, they'll be in for a big fight.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:57 am to ThaiTiger24
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This is also going to name it a lot easier to channel dirty money from boosters to players.
Exactly. Sign with school A and we will get an endorsement deal with a certain company for "x" amount.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:58 am to Ole Ag
I believe we will eventually see a compromise between these states and the NCAA that will change how all this is done going forward. It will most likely hinge on TV and video game deals where a defined amount of money is brought in. A percentage of this amount of money will be set aside and used as payment to the student-athletes. It would limit the free-for-all potential that is obvious while maintaining amateurism and the NCAA. All athletes at a given school will be paid the same, but they will be paid. It is the only way Title IX can be maintained and to prevent a wild west type environment.
It is also the only way to account for the fact that the overwhelming majority of student-athletes at a given school on a given team are relative unknowns with little to no market value.
It is also the only way to account for the fact that the overwhelming majority of student-athletes at a given school on a given team are relative unknowns with little to no market value.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:59 am to TchPowDog
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This goes to helping a lot of college athletes make it through school. And don't think it would just be free business, open market. They would cap the earning for college athletes. It would be governed, not just willy nilly football players making hundreds of thousands a year - it's silly to think that would be the case.
And how would it be governed? Who would determine the caps? Would it be 50 different state governments? Would it be the NCAA?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:05 pm to bayou85
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I get that but the school using a players face to sell tickets
people come to the games to watch UGA (in the case of my school). It doesn't matter if Fromm, stafford, or Zeier is QB. Nor swift, knowshon, or musa smith at RB. People come to the games because they are fans of the UGA football team.
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If they use players to make money, the player should be compensated
Players receive:
-Free tuition and education expenses. What's 1 semester cost (in-state) these days, about 10K or so? On the house.
-Free housing
-Free books
-Free meals
-Free clothes
-Free top notch medical care
-A stipend for spending money
-A multi-year audition for their next job that can potentially pay millions
-Notoriety as the BMOC (not monetary but still awesome)
These players are receiving well into the 6 figures, likely over $200K, in goods and services during their stay. It's ridiculous to act like they aren't compensated as is.
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If LSU's punter wore #9, nobody would buy it. Joe Burrow should get some money for sales of 9 jerseys while he is at LSU.
Something as extraordinarily simple and basic as that I don't necessarily mind
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I dont think it should be the wild west.
It will be though. "Profiting off of likeness" just opens way too many doors like the one I said early in the thread. It may start as innocent as "if this is your jersey, you can get 3% of its sales" but will very quickly devolve into sky high payments to players (or promises to recruits should they come to your school) in excahnge for appearing in 1 radio commercial or a newspaper ad.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:05 pm to ThaiTiger24
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This is also going to make it a lot easier to channel dirty money from boosters to players.
No I disagree here because Bama is the only program that currently does this. I seriously doubt this new law would encourage the other programs to start doing that as well. It’ll still only be Bama I would bet.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:08 pm to Ole Ag
It is ridiculous. It is like working for a pharmaceutical company using all their resources and then starting your own company and filing a patent so you can make millions of dollars off of 100 millions of dollars in equipment and tools necessary to make the discoveries. It is a free ride and giving even more of a competitive edge to large universities. Georgia State University is about to dominate.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:08 pm to spslayto
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And how would it be governed? Who would determine the caps? Would it be 50 different state governments? Would it be the NCAA?
It would be governed by laws, not the NCAA. And it can't be a flat cap across the country. $1,000 in Alabama is a lot different than $1,000 in Los Angeles.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:08 pm to WG_Dawg
Come to this banquet/dealership/hotel and sign your jersey. Will pay you $10,000.
SMU is lurking in the shadows to return the Pony Express
SMU is lurking in the shadows to return the Pony Express
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:12 pm to spslayto
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This is also going to name it a lot easier to channel dirty money from boosters to players.
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Exactly. Sign with school A and we will get an endorsement deal with a certain company for "x" amount.
This...it won't even be "dirty money" at that point. It will all be above board.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:14 pm to TchPowDog
All player money raised by endorsements or other means should not go directly to any particular player, but go to a conference fund to be dispersed evenly to all members of school sports teams. This fund should be untouchable and dispersed only to the players in equal payments. This means that the RB receives the same monthly check as the volleyball player. I can see no other fairness situation that would work. But you have the other can of worms that open up. You have the cheerleaders and band members who work as hard or harder than your typical bench warmer. Time to punt.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:16 pm to madmaxvol
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This...it won't even be "dirty money" at that point. It will all be above board.
Correct, legalizing the movie blue chips...to a point lol
This will kill the “black” colleges like grambling...along with the ULL, la tech, ULMs of the world.
Recruiting with all big money boosters will get very interesting.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:46 pm to tylerdurden24
It won’t be Valdosta against Florida, but Georgia v. Florida, which already probably happens, but it will far more intense and high stakes. Essentially it will be an open bidding war, for every player being recruited by the power football programs who have rich boosters willing to play the recruiting game and pay. If recruiting is already corrupt, you have not seen anything yet. At this point, just have professional teams.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:04 pm to Ole Ag
It means we can get the NCAA game back.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:04 pm to tigerinridgeland
I'm not even thinking of the local car dealer booster, though that's definitely going to be a big part of it. I am thinking of the super stars getting endorsements from Nike, Adidas, Gatorade, etc. And I can't imagine the NCAA is excited about that considering all the stuff that has come out recently that proves undoubtedly that even those companies are crooked (i.e. they play favorites for directing recruits).
Could you imagine if those major companies decided to blackball Alabama or Clemson, for example? Suddenly those teams are scraping for low 4 stars because all the elite prospects are choosing between a school and a ton of money.
Could you imagine if those major companies decided to blackball Alabama or Clemson, for example? Suddenly those teams are scraping for low 4 stars because all the elite prospects are choosing between a school and a ton of money.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:11 pm to tylerdurden24
You were implying boosters wouldn't be paying top dollar for recruits, no?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:11 pm to Ole Ag
Imagine this.....5-star players attends USC first year, doesn't start but receives major endorsement money to attend to begin with. Then said player enters the transfer portal after year one and goes to UCLA and receives more endorsement money.....when does it end and where does it end?
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