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Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:30 pm to madmaxvol
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This...it won't even be "dirty money" at that point. It will all be above board.
Which means the boosters and players get to pay taxes on the money exchanged. I’m sure bag men are thrilled about that
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:32 pm to bigDgator
I was implying that while it already happens, people are acting like all of these businesses are going to crawl out of the woodwork to pay high school recruits and o attend their favorite school when I’ve yet to see evidence of any particular person saying they were actually going to do that themselves.
What does that have to do with saban or smarts recruiting strategy?
What does that have to do with saban or smarts recruiting strategy?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:41 pm to tylerdurden24
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I was implying that while it already happens, people are acting like all of these businesses are going to crawl out of the woodwork to pay high school recruits and o attend their favorite school when I’ve yet to see evidence of any particular person saying they were actually going to do that themselves.
What does that have to do with saban or smarts recruiting strategy?
It is just as silly. These folks with money are not going to act like ponzi schemer Nevin Shapiro. They don't want to attract any attention because everyone knows whatever the law says you can give these people will not be what they actually get.
They will get more.
Why would any sane person want to invite the regulators to look into their finances?
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:46 pm to bigDgator
Well then why is everyone panicking? If visibility is a deterrent to these boosters then there won’t be any issues.
And I still don’t know why that has anything to do with my thoughts on smart and Saban
And I still don’t know why that has anything to do with my thoughts on smart and Saban
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:49 pm to tylerdurden24
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as soon as this law passes and the rules change, I’m going to pay every 5* top dollar to play at my favorite school”
It's a long,long way off and I don't think there's a reason for someone to brag about a rule/that hasn't even been implemented yet.
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But there’s an ROI expectation that is going to affect these supposed free for all payments.
Nah,you know these big time boosters and their egos.They just want access to the program and a feeling that they have ownership in the team/ players.
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So who is getting in on the ground floor of this new Wild West? Who is lining up to drop 50k to keep the kid from Valdosta from going to Florida?
Is it going to happen everywhere? Who knows? But it's going to happen.I cannot think of one NCAA recruiting rule that hasn't been stretched to the limit and exploited as much as possible without breaking it.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:16 pm to RD Dawg
I wonder what happens when Alabama players start endorsing Mercedes Benz of Birmingham.
Owner Nick Saban
Just trying to infuse a little levity!
Owner Nick Saban
Just trying to infuse a little levity!
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:23 pm to tylerdurden24
I don't know that anyone is panicking and I am not a mapmaker.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:26 pm to GRTiger
The number of athletes with endorsements with the big companies deals will be very small. Most of the deals will be booster financed and driven to get recruits to sign with schools supported by the those boosters. But yes there will be problems all around from Adidas to JoBob’s Discount Used Cars.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:32 pm to tylerdurden24
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I was implying that while it already happens, people are acting like all of these businesses are going to crawl out of the woodwork to pay high school recruits and o attend their favorite school when I’ve yet to see evidence of any particular person saying they were actually going to do that themselves.
Lets say under this new rule you can de facto promise a recruit a certain amount of money through endorsements/memorabilia. Are you saying you don't think the top 300 recruits in the country won't be wined and dined by every football happy P5 school booster group to come play for them? Instead of boosters writing the big check to support a building campaign, they will write a big check to bring in Johnny 4 star. It would be naive to think it won't happen as soon as the door is opened.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 2:46 pm to tylerdurden24
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Except the money is no longer dirty because it’s no longer against the rules...
And because it’s no longer against the rules you’re going to start seeing boosters openly competing and pricing out other boosters and when some idiot spends $100k on a high schooler who never lives up to the hype, the market will self correct.
Except that's not what these laws say. They don't say it's legal to throw money at recruits from any angle. It is only saying that they can profit from endorsements or their "likeness" being used in advertisements, on apparel, on video games, etc.
So if that's the case, then the guy above is right: It will make it much harder to police which money is legal and which is not. Profiting from a "likeness" is not the same as a booster throwing $100k at a high-school junior to get him to sign with UGA.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:05 pm to WG_Dawg
This will work just fine. The sky isn't falling.
You can't support free market economics and not support this without being a complete hypocrite.
You can't support free market economics and not support this without being a complete hypocrite.
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:18 pm to Ole Ag
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Would this allow an individual to sign a contract with a player to pay the player $10K a month for 4 years for a signed picture in his school uniform monthly?
In school uniform? Tell you what...do a Google image search for Fred McGriff commercials and you'll get some comical but accurate answers to your question. ??
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:21 pm to Ole Ag
It means an outright pay for play scheme.
I think it's safe to say those that are for this are mostly living off the government and think they deserve handouts because life is so unfair.....
I think it's safe to say those that are for this are mostly living off the government and think they deserve handouts because life is so unfair.....
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:24 pm to Ole Ag
It could also cover a lot of stuff. Using the name for a college football game. names on the back of jerseys, advertising for TV, Wheaties boxes, TV show appearances, and ti could go on and on. And then, only the top athletes would profit the most....which is not necessarily unfair. But you talk about top recruits getting bought.
A school like UCLA, USC in Los Angeles with television, movies, product placements....telling kids they would be rich if they went to their school, and getting people to make promises for endorsements, etc. If you think recruiting is bad now....just wait.
A school like UCLA, USC in Los Angeles with television, movies, product placements....telling kids they would be rich if they went to their school, and getting people to make promises for endorsements, etc. If you think recruiting is bad now....just wait.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:32 pm to chillmonster
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You can't support free market economics and not support this
this isn't economics, it's amateur athletes that are college students. They aren't employees or contract laborers, they're students that are at school and play football on the side. Yes I know that's not REALLY the way it is all the time but that's what it's supposed to be.
I mean if you're so into the free market why not pay the high school kids as well? You can't tell me in some of these Texas towns that a big stud QB isn't a drawing force bringing people out to fill those 30K seat stadiums..do those guys deserve to be paid as well?
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:37 pm to WG_Dawg
1. EVERYTHING is economics.
2. Their labor generates millions and their wages are limited by something other than the market. Of course this is antithetical to free market economics.
You just don't have an argument here, man. Let this one go.
2. Their labor generates millions and their wages are limited by something other than the market. Of course this is antithetical to free market economics.
You just don't have an argument here, man. Let this one go.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:59 pm to Ole Ag
Heard Mond was gonna have his face on flavored vape juices before the bad news dropped earlier.
Posted on 10/1/19 at 4:13 pm to TchPowDog
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This goes to helping a lot of college athletes make it through school
Like WHO? Nobody GAS about other college sports that don't make money and can't produce any type of ROI for their likeness
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are probably 95% of the athletes in concern.
FIFY
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They would cap the earning for college athletes. It would be governed, not just willy nilly football players making hundreds of thousands a year - it's silly to think that would be the case
Not silly at all and there's not sentence in the California or North Carolina law that puts a "cap" on anything or "governs" anything.Quite the opposite BTW.
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