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What does it say about SEC DCs that only one thought about Manziel going left?

Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:47 am
Posted by Eden
Member since Nov 2014
477 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:47 am
I mean shite, the Bengals just owned Manziel tonight, and claimed afterward that all they did was force him to his right. LSU did this two years running and made Manziel look mortal.

All it seems to have taken to contain Manziel was forcing him to go right, and yet of the DCs that got a crack at Manziel during his two years, only one figured this out?

I'm not even saying this to prop up my team here, because I think this kinda thing should be a baseline expectation for a defensive staff watching film on someone. I can forgive not figuring this out in 2012, but this wasn't some kind of sudden discovery late in 2013. The Bengals went to the film and located his weakness no problem.

To be fair the correct answer is probably "nothing, it's one isolated example among hundreds that SEC DCs see in their careers," or maybe "the NFL defensive staffs have more film and time to research than college staffs," but it's just mind-boggling to me that the Bengals can find that tendency so easily and only one DC can manage to exploit it worth a damn during Manziel's college career.

EDIT: I should probably clarify that Manziel is one of my top favorite non-LSU players; this isn't a "bash Manziel" thread by any means. I love his confidence and improvisational skills. It's just that this guy ripped the SEC a new one statistically for two years despite having a weakness that, as far as weaknesses go, isn't all that hard to scheme on. I don't see how that happens if SEC DCs are as good as we think.
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:02 am
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72892 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:52 am to
Chief don't play that Johnny Football shite.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 5:56 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:02 am to
quote:

the correct answer is probably "nothing
This post was edited on 12/15/14 at 6:03 am
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 6:59 am to
Fire em all!!!

Except Muschamp - he's a genius.
Posted by BoominHogtown
Quantico
Member since Dec 2012
421 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Except Muschamp - he's a genius.


undefeated vs JFF (1-0)
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:05 am to
quote:

I'm not even saying this to prop up my team here


BS. But someone needs to find a way to.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19204 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:07 am to
I give Boom a lot of credit.

Yes, JFF was making his first start but the Aggies were really putting it to Florida and then Boom made some damned good adjustments that negated what was going on.

No other SEC DC had NO tape to go off of. That day, Boom did a solid job.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
5857 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:37 am to
LOL.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:53 am to
There's no QB alive that would have been successful yesterday for Cleveland. Cinncy's D lived in the backfield all day....couple that with being a rookie and he was bound to make mistakes.
Posted by Duckman13
Tiger Stadium
Member since Dec 2006
3047 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 7:55 am to
quote:

There's no QB alive that would have been successful yesterday for Cleveland. Cinncy's D lived in the backfield all day....couple that with being a rookie and he was bound to make mistakes


We got ourselves a live one!!!!!!
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:03 am to
It probably means NFL players are better than college players.
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22504 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:04 am to
You would have thought Cleveland would have done their homework before drafting him.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 8:05 am to
Well, we just fired ours.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:08 am to
It's pretty bad how some teams made him look so good. Had he not been in a scheme/college that pumped him up to be the second coming he'd maybe be getting PT in the CFL
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25177 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:25 am to
Manziel was an exciting player in college who kept a lot of drives going by pulling plays out of his backside. That having been said his WRs did bail him out a lot. I am not saying that to knock the kid or saying the Aggies got lucky or anything. There were an awful lot of fling and pray passes that the Aggie wideouts came down with.

That isn't going to work quite as well in the NFL.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:27 am to
And how pretty bad teams were able to limit his success.
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:27 am to
When you are crowned GOAT after going 10-6 in the SEC you are ultimately destined for mediocrity at best.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 12/15/14 at 9:35 am to
He's not an ambiturner
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