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Posted on 3/13/20 at 1:35 pm to djsdawg
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You know you have made some terrible arguments when you are reduced to one of the lowest forms of a post, a fricking ban bet.
I knew you wouldn't take it because you know the 500k is bullshite, I know the number is bullshite and so does everyone else.
I've never once ever mentioned a ban bet on anything. But your claim is just so outrageous there is no risk at all for me.
It's funny listening to someone who called me a communist because I quoted the official numbers from China pretend they have a solid argument.
And on that note, I'll once again remind you that even though the virus spread for over a month before being detected, and even though they have a population of 1.3 billion people, 4 times the US, the total amount of deaths in China is below 3500 months after it all started.
500k deaths in the US is just not supported at all.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 3:26 pm to Slackaveli
quote:this x10000000
and we have actual idiots running our country.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:08 pm to I-59 Tiger
They pretty much were informed the way everyone else was: they listened to the supposed national leaders, who said, "keep going to work, keep getting out and about, this is nothing different than the flu, everything is normal"
Then they listened to the actual experts. That's all it was.....
And it's not that hard of a question to answer: the President went from "it's no different than the common flu" to "ban all international flights and travel", to "national emergency" in the span literally of hours.....
Then they listened to the actual experts. That's all it was.....
And it's not that hard of a question to answer: the President went from "it's no different than the common flu" to "ban all international flights and travel", to "national emergency" in the span literally of hours.....
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:21 pm to 3down10
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knew you wouldn't take it because you know the 500k is bullshite, I know the number is bull shite and so does everyone else.
Says the guy who believes the communist regime numbers are legit, but our experts numbers are trash. Not even trump is acting as stupid as you are now.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:25 pm to Tiguar
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they found out everyone else was cancelling and some lawyer would use that as a reason to sue them if they did not also cancel but someone got sick
frick lawyers
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:31 pm to ConwayGamecock
quote:This statement shows that you've got absolutely NO concept of the responsibilities our national leaders have regarding to handling the behavior of the masses during crisis.
They pretty much were informed the way everyone else was: they listened to the supposed national leaders, who said, "keep going to work, keep getting out and about, this is nothing different than the flu, everything is normal"
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:41 pm to coachcrisp
Their responsibilities are to do the opposite of dangerously misleading the public during a crisis. All of his BS didn’t accomplish anything Positive.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 5:58 pm to coachcrisp
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This statement shows that you've got absolutely NO concept of the responsibilities our national leaders have regarding to handling the behavior of the masses during crisis.
And this statement shows you're totally blind to reality evolving around you on a second-by-second basis: you speak of "responsibilities our national leaders have regarding to handling the behavior of the masses during crisis" in the face of comments about the President going from "nothing to see here" to "national emergency" - how the frick does THAT handling of the behavior of the masses work for YOU???
We have everything shutting down left and right because no one knows what COVID-19 truly is, how to stop it, and how infected our country is by it. How are our leaders handling THAT behavior????
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:27 pm to ConwayGamecock
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We have everything shutting down left and right because no one knows what COVID-19 truly is, how to stop it, and how infected our country is by it.
I disagree. I think they know. They just don't want the public to know. You don't just shut down entire leagues, Disney, Universal, and Broadway on a whim. They are telling us to take this seriously.........some can't take the hint.
ETA No matter how old or young you are, have you ever seen anything like this? (there is a reason)
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:30 pm to ConwayGamecock
You really think this was handled well by the executive?
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:33 pm to djsdawg
quote:So tell us what he should have said to the public, knowing what they knew for a fact at the time. Let's hear what your response would have been.
Their responsibilities are to do the opposite of dangerously misleading the public during a crisis. All of his BS didn’t accomplish anything Positive.
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:36 pm to djsdawg
quote:We vindicated yet dawg?
djsdawg
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:38 pm to MrAUTigers
quote:They dont trust us not to shoot and loot everything to all hell i think
I disagree. I think they know. They just don't want the public to know. You don't just shut down entire leagues, Disney, Universal, and Broadway on a whim. They are telling us to take this seriously.........some can't take the hint.
ETA No matter how old or young you are, have you ever seen anything like this? (there is a reason)
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:38 pm to Slackaveli
Read this SCATHING article. Its an incredible read, truly! Even Trumpers should because we bout to hammer all this home. LINK
We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy. (This would cause not only needless coronavirus-related deaths, but deaths from those suffering from other ailments who won’t have ready access to hospital care.)
Some of these mistakes are less serious and more understandable than others. One has to take into account that in government, when people are forced to make important decisions based on incomplete information in a compressed period of time, things go wrong.
Yet in some respects, the avalanche of false information from the president has been most alarming of all. It’s been one rock slide after another, the likes of which we have never seen. Day after day after day he brazenly denied reality, in an effort to blunt the economic and political harm he faced. But Trump is in the process of discovering that he can’t spin or tweet his way out of a pandemic. There is no one who can do to the coronavirus what Attorney General William Barr did to the Mueller report: lie about it and get away with it.
The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more.
Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing. He stated that the coronavirus first hit the United States later than it actually did. (He said that it was three weeks prior to the point at which he spoke; the actual figure was twice that.) The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse. And in one of the more stunning statements an American president has ever made, Trump admitted that his preference was to keep a cruise ship off the California coast rather than allowing it to dock, because he wanted to keep the number of reported cases of the coronavirus artificially low.
“I like the numbers,” Trump said. “I would rather have the numbers stay where they are. But if they want to take them off, they’ll take them off. But if that happens, all of a sudden your 240 [cases] is obviously going to be a much higher number, and probably the 11 [deaths] will be a higher number too.” (Cooler heads prevailed, and over the president’s objections, the Grand Princess was allowed to dock at the Port of Oakland.)
On and on it goes.
We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy. (This would cause not only needless coronavirus-related deaths, but deaths from those suffering from other ailments who won’t have ready access to hospital care.)
Some of these mistakes are less serious and more understandable than others. One has to take into account that in government, when people are forced to make important decisions based on incomplete information in a compressed period of time, things go wrong.
Yet in some respects, the avalanche of false information from the president has been most alarming of all. It’s been one rock slide after another, the likes of which we have never seen. Day after day after day he brazenly denied reality, in an effort to blunt the economic and political harm he faced. But Trump is in the process of discovering that he can’t spin or tweet his way out of a pandemic. There is no one who can do to the coronavirus what Attorney General William Barr did to the Mueller report: lie about it and get away with it.
The president’s misinformation and mendacity about the coronavirus are head-snapping. He claimed that it was contained in America when it was actually spreading. He claimed that we had “shut it down” when we had not. He claimed that testing was available when it wasn’t. He claimed that the coronavirus will one day disappear “like a miracle”; it won’t. He claimed that a vaccine would be available in months; Fauci says it will not be available for a year or more.
Trump falsely blamed the Obama administration for impeding coronavirus testing. He stated that the coronavirus first hit the United States later than it actually did. (He said that it was three weeks prior to the point at which he spoke; the actual figure was twice that.) The president claimed that the number of cases in Italy was getting “much better” when it was getting much worse. And in one of the more stunning statements an American president has ever made, Trump admitted that his preference was to keep a cruise ship off the California coast rather than allowing it to dock, because he wanted to keep the number of reported cases of the coronavirus artificially low.
“I like the numbers,” Trump said. “I would rather have the numbers stay where they are. But if they want to take them off, they’ll take them off. But if that happens, all of a sudden your 240 [cases] is obviously going to be a much higher number, and probably the 11 [deaths] will be a higher number too.” (Cooler heads prevailed, and over the president’s objections, the Grand Princess was allowed to dock at the Port of Oakland.)
On and on it goes.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:42 pm to I-59 Tiger
Baws, until we kill alll the lawyers and supply chain people, the world is fricked...
Posted on 3/13/20 at 6:51 pm to ConwayGamecock
quote:We've got NO IDEA what the administration knew at that time. The last thing the govt wants/needs at that time is a national panic! You've got NO IDEA what would have happened if the population had listened to the MSM and gone bonkers. Go to the store and try to buy toilet paper, sanitizer wipes, or ANY true necessities even NOW, and see what I'm talking about.
And this statement shows you're totally blind to reality evolving around you on a second-by-second basis: you speak of "responsibilities our national leaders have regarding to handling the behavior of the masses during crisis" in the face of comments about the President going from "nothing to see here" to "national emergency" - how the frick does THAT handling of the behavior of the masses work for YOU???
We have everything shutting down left and right because no one knows what COVID-19 truly is, how to stop it, and how infected our country is by it. How are our leaders handling THAT behavior????
You fricking people who want to blame the administration for the negative aspect of EVERYTHING that happens without giving them credit for ANYTHING positive make me sick.
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