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Unpopular opinion: All this realignment is good and way past due
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:46 pm
College football has been broken for quite some time.
The idea that Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia compete for the same title as Troy, Buffalo, and Rice is absurd.
Consolidation of the major programs into a couple of elite conferences, and relegation of the rest to a lower level of competition, is WAY past due. 50 point blowouts should not ever be commonplace, and thr fact that we start every season with blowout after blowout after blowout of elite teams over minor league teams is stupid.
I am glad to see college football finally reorganizing itself to reflect reality.
Get the major programs together in the major conferences, and break away from the hangers-on. Let the programs that got left behind decades ago play for their own title they actually compete for. Let the major programs play a full season of games against other major programs.
I known a lot of y'all hate change. But deep down you know I'm right.
The idea that Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia compete for the same title as Troy, Buffalo, and Rice is absurd.
Consolidation of the major programs into a couple of elite conferences, and relegation of the rest to a lower level of competition, is WAY past due. 50 point blowouts should not ever be commonplace, and thr fact that we start every season with blowout after blowout after blowout of elite teams over minor league teams is stupid.
I am glad to see college football finally reorganizing itself to reflect reality.
Get the major programs together in the major conferences, and break away from the hangers-on. Let the programs that got left behind decades ago play for their own title they actually compete for. Let the major programs play a full season of games against other major programs.
I known a lot of y'all hate change. But deep down you know I'm right.
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:48 pm to Krampus
That's a very unamerican viewpoint.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:48 pm to Krampus
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The idea that Alabama, LSU, and Georgia compete for the same title as Texas A&M, Buffalo, and Rice is absurd.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:49 pm to Krampus
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Krampus
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fricking idiot.
College football is about tradition. You Phag should know that since you claim literally everything as tradition.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:53 pm to Krampus
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College football has been broken for quite some time.
forming 2 20+ team superleagues won't fix it
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The idea that Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia compete for the same title as Troy, Buffalo, and Rice is absurd.
how will realignment help troy compete for a national title?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:53 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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College football is about tradition.
Lol. If that were still true we would still think of big time Bowl Games as the pinnacle of achievement for a season, and let the national championship chips fall where they may.
The sport has evolved whether you like it or not. It's past time for the organization to catch up to today's reality.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:54 pm to Krampus
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College football has been broken for quite some time.
The idea that Alabama, Ohio State, and Georgia compete for the same title as Troy, Buffalo, and Rice is absurd.
Troy, Buffalo, and Rice could play a Division down. That is their choice.
It is no different than Mercer competing against Kansas, UNC, and Duke in basketball. Basketball isn't broken. Football isn't either.
Lesser conferences are broken. There will always be haves and have-nots. It's that way in every walk of life.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:56 pm to Krampus
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College football has been broken for quite some time.
Maybe this will be the final nail in the coffin.
To think a day when there’s no more coddling the players like ‘kids’ when it’s convenient or referring to them as ‘adults’ and ‘employees’ when that narrative fits the bill- tbh football not existing doesn’t really sound too bad to me.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:56 pm to New Money
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That's a very unamerican viewpoint.
Actually it's very american. It's a very capitalist viewpoint. The status quo is more socialist.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:57 pm to MrAUTigers
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Troy, Buffalo, and Rice could play a Division down. That is their choice.
It shouldn't be. They want the money that comes from playing top competition without investing in trying to actually compete at the level they want to be. They are fleecing the major programs. They need to be left behind.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:58 pm to New Money
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That's a very unamerican viewpoint.
Nothing more American than free market capitalism leading to the consolidation of capital into a few large players that squeeze out all smaller operations thus robbing communities of unique, localized arrangements in favor of global homogenized products.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:58 pm to Krampus
4 16 team conferences..
Top 64 teams in terms of attendance.
Divided geographically.
Playoffs are top 2 from each.
Easy
Top 64 teams in terms of attendance.
Divided geographically.
Playoffs are top 2 from each.
Easy
Posted on 8/4/23 at 12:59 pm to piggilicious
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tbh football not existing doesn’t really sound too bad to me.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:01 pm to Krampus
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It shouldn't be. They want the money that comes from playing top competition without investing in trying to actually compete at the level they want to be. They are fleecing the major programs. They need to be left behind.
Those Universities need that money. Not every penny goes back into the athletic budget. Roughly half of money raised from football goes to the academic side of things.
There will always be some who just can't compete on the highest level. A big payday for those schools has a big impact on the entirety of the University.
ETA Hell, there are professional franchises that can't compete with the upper echelon.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:04 pm to Krampus
My biggest gripe is how this going to effect everyone's scheduling. We finally got it to a point with 16 teams that we are able to get rid of divisions and play everyone twice within a 2 year time span, but now thats going to have to be reworked again. Unless the conference moves to an all P5 schedule for 12 games, a 18 or 20 team conference is going to be hard to work with.
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:07 pm to Dawgfanman
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4 16 team conferences..
Top 64 teams in terms of attendance.
Divided geographically.
Playoffs are top 2 from each.
Easy
Except that those who are in a setup now that puts them ahead of that scenario will never vote for moving to that scenario.
All of the money side of college football taking over was caused by two teams. UGA and Oklahoma. We sued the NCAA to make it so that teams controlled their TV rights rather than the NCAA.
All of the changes in CFB really came from that suit that ended in 1984, including it being televised all over the place and the increase in money generated.
There have been many positives and negatives from that lawsuit, but people have to remember that there used to be only one football game televised a week (decided by the NCAA) and some schools NEVER had a televised football game (like KAnsas State and Virginia). That lawsuit meant that we have tons of football to watch... but it also made money the driving factor. We have to take the good with the bad from that.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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how will realignment help troy compete for a national title?
Eh, I kind of understand and appreciate what Krampus is getting at.
Troy, realistically, can't win a national title. If you put them in the SEC tomorrow and gave them 50 years? Who knows (still unlikely, obviously). But as it's currently structured, their entire existence is hoping for a win against a Power 5 school every decade or so and attempting to win the Sun Belt.
If the major programs recuse themselves from competing on the same plane as G5 schools and the lesser power conference teams, refusing to participate in a playoff with the lower tiers, Troy now has an actual shot to win a national title in its new division. The solution isn't perfect, but all of the Wazzu and Beaver bellyaching over having the soul of the sport ripped from them/their programs "destroyed" seems pretty crazy to me when Montana and North Dakota State are able to have somewhat thriving programs that compete within their own realm.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:18 pm to DawginSC
The status quo is "We formed clubs a century ago, and none of you are allowed to play.".
America is everyone having an equal opportunity (not an equal outcome).
If Boise State wants to compete against UGA, Bama, Ohio State, more power to them.
America is everyone having an equal opportunity (not an equal outcome).
If Boise State wants to compete against UGA, Bama, Ohio State, more power to them.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:19 pm to Diego Ricardo
I'm all for capitalism, which means we have an open marketplace. What the OP is proposing is fascism.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:26 pm to New Money
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he status quo is "We formed clubs a century ago, and none of you are allowed to play.".
America is everyone having an equal opportunity (not an equal outcome).
If Boise State wants to compete against UGA, Bama, Ohio State, more power to them.
But equal opportunity doesn't mean equal circumstances. UGA has fan support to a level that BSU doesn't have. That means UGA gets more money from people watching their games, they can spend more money on recruiting and coaches and everything else. BSU can't complain "that's not fair". They can't demand that UGA plays games against them at their stadium. They aren't the product people are paying to watch... UGA is.
Capitalism at the root is about giving consumers what they want. If they want UGA and not BSU, there's nothing unamerican, unfair or wrong in giving that to them. It's up to BSU to change that.
FSU did this over decades as an independent. They went to other teams home stadiums without return trips. They played anyone, anywhere and took financial losses to build a brand. Nobody deserves to have that given to them.
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