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re: UNLV QB quits immediately over NIL

Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:44 am to
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7793 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:44 am to
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This just screams tampering


Apparently Toddy says everybody's doing it and It's okay.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:46 am to
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Apparently Toddy says everybody's doing it and It's okay.


I'm not saying it is ok. But the NCAA has no power. This is why the breakaway super conference is inevitable. There is no other way to reel this back in, outside of a smaller number of schools making their own rules and policing themselves.

The NCAA has no power to control anything at this point.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
4994 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:49 am to
Your response is linked to the main reason that the NCAA has had no balls in forever. The sooner that archaic institution is completely gutted and revamped with actual bylaws with teeth, the better for the student athletes, coaches, boosters and fans
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
4994 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:50 am to
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outside of a smaller number of schools making their own rules and policing themselves.


I actually think this is a very real possibility and I would welcome that scenario to be a counter to what we’re seeing by the big schools and conferences
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19761 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:53 am to
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Lot of boomers in this thread. He didn’t receive the money that was owed to him. Would you work your job for free?


Owed to him as extra for his name, image, and likeness. It’s not an employment contract from the team or university.

If players are quitting on teams because what are essentially their endorsement deals aren’t paying out, that’s a problem for CFB. If NILs are pulling money from players for perceived poor performance leading to them quitting, then that’s a problem for CFB. If NILs are lying to players to get them to sign with schools and then players quit or lose a year of eligibility because the money was never there, that’s a problem for CFB. If other schools have NILs offering more money to players currently playing on teams leading them to quit, then that’s a problem for CFB.

There’s nothing good in this story for football’s future. The NCAA or the universities need to figure out a way to get a handle on this.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
15263 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 8:56 am to
Yeah, well, the school shouldn't have made an offer it couldn't uphold. I don't like where we are at, but this is where we are at, so get used to it.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11419 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:00 am to
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:02 am to
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Yeah, well, the school shouldn't have made an offer it couldn't uphold.


If this is true, I am 100% with the kid.

If he was given everything he was promised, asked for more & then walked, I hope he is sued by the UNLV NIL collective.
Posted by BigTastey
Middle Georgia
Member since Feb 2019
3991 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:07 am to
What does Boomers have to do with it? We are the ones giving the $$$. Two sides to every story. If the school did not fulfill obligation and contract… see ya!
Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
17952 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:10 am to
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This just screams tampering


Tampering is easy to get around now with how connected everyone is. The head and asst coaches just make their current players their mouthpiece. They recruit and discuss the possibility of transferring to X school from Y school. But until that player enters the portal, the coaches do their best to avoid directly contacting that player or their family.

Posted by AUTubaHerd
Member since Nov 2012
2065 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:11 am to
All thanks to some federal judges legislating from the bench
Posted by Wanruningchen
Member since Jan 2024
1696 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14534 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:14 am to
They are mercenaries...not teammates. That ship has sailed.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14534 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:17 am to
Yeah, fck this kid and his family. He agreed to the stipulations in his original agreement...then he wanted more.
Holy Cross my a$$.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
28164 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:17 am to
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Imagine being such a gaping pussy that you quit on your team in the middle of the season because you got your fee-fees hurt.


Blame NIL, don't blame the kid.

This is the sport now.

Say you were offered a job to work for Price Waterhouse as an auditor. You signed your forms on a agreed salary.

You start work. Your first paycheck is 25% of what it should be, and they say that's all they can pay you.... yeah, you'd be gone in a heartbeat.

Blame the sport. Blame every fan paying into NIL, blame everyone that helped the sport get to this pile of shite it's at now..

This kid is part of that system that has been created. I don't blame him.

NIL + Portal = complete free agency college football



I've said this before on here... I've watched Auburn celebrate in the locker room on our few wins the last couple of years. They were doing our fight song in the locker room as the team always has. Nobody knows the words to the fight song. I was embarrassed and actually felt let down. College football is just a business now. We just pretend it isn't.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14834 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:22 am to
Toddy, how do you know exactly what the details are of this situation when no one else here can possibly know? Do you have some additional information that none of the rest of us have? Or are you basing it all off of the players statement and what you want it to be?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130021 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:23 am to
I hate what has become of college athletics.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14534 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:24 am to
Not in the middle of a season. This absolutely reeks of entitlement.
He can't change the contract in the middle of a season and not expect blowback. If any athlete is unhappy with their deal they can haul arse at the end of the season.
Shite like this is what's going to drive me and millions like me to quit spending money and take my weekends back.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:27 am to
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Toddy, how do you know exactly what the details are of this situation when no one else here can possibly know? Do you have some additional information that none of the rest of us have? Or are you basing it all off of the players statement and what you want it to be?


Because it makes the most logical sense. Nothing else fits.

Edit: I just saw that tweet.

If his NIL was paid as agreed then the kid is a POS.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:33 am
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7793 posts
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:27 am to
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Your first paycheck is 25% of what it should be, and they say that's all they can pay you.... yeah, you'd be gone in a heartbeat.


This is why there are contracts. Binding both sides to the agreement. If you look at the post above, all NIL commitments to this kid were fulfilled and yet he thinks he's worth more.

quote:

This kid is part of that system that has been created. I don't blame him.



So if this kid were to go out and have a Hank Brown type day, can the NIL collective asks for it's money back? There's has got to be some kind of oversight because it's a one way street right now.
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