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re: Unless you’ve been a college athlete under the NCAA you wouldn’t understand...
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:11 am to Goldtide1
Posted on 10/2/19 at 8:11 am to Goldtide1
quote:preventing a complete, unmitigated corruption of college athletics and preserving some semblance of concern to preserve the "student" inside of student-athlete is what should truly matter. It is a major change that would need to evolve slowly and carefully to ensure transparency, fairness (to the best degree) and the ability to course correct down the road when it inevitably starts to head off the rails.
the more power we can remove from the NCAA the better for the college athlete. That’s what should matter.
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:30 am to Cobb Dawg
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A college education is worth over $100,000 these days, and the opportunity to be coached and showcased to the NFL is worth even more to the best players. Plus, in case any of you didn't know, they're being "compensated" for their services already in other ways.
CFB and CBB are already turning into professional sports, but it's about to be totally ruined. I like college sports because they are amateur sports. When they become professional sports I'll no longer be a fan. And I'm not alone
Lemme see:
HCs making $9MM per year while their players walk around with lint in their pockets is OK
ADs make 7-figure salaries, HCs become insanely rich, yet when a Frontline athlete that puts their body on the line and takes the most risk wants a MORE FAIR piece of the economic pie, ONLY THEN do you have a problem with big time college sports
Simple question:
Why are you jealous of those that have talents that you or your kids don't have
When Swift leaped over that ND Defender, YOU WERE ENTERTAINED, would you have been less entertained if Swift had an endorsement deal or made money above his scholly?
Probably not, that leaves only jealousy or envy or one other thing that I'll avoid mentioning for now
My simple challenge to you is to simply be a better human being
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:54 am to AlaCowboy
Na it’s for all of them. Boosters will pay high school kids “for their likeness” to play for xx school.
Nike of all people will have the most power. They already orchestrate who plays where in European soccer. I’m sure they’re rock hard at the thought of this coming to America.
Nike of all people will have the most power. They already orchestrate who plays where in European soccer. I’m sure they’re rock hard at the thought of this coming to America.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 9:58 am to Cobb Dawg
you sound like a socialist
Posted on 10/2/19 at 10:02 am to maninwhitecoat
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Whatever it takes to break up the blue bloods. Nobody wants to see the same programs in the playoffs year in and year out.
The blue bloods will only get stronger. Oregon could be the exception because they have an endless supply of cash with Nike.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:11 am to Goldtide1
I'm ready for all college sports to take on the ivy model.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:31 am to PeeJayScammedGT
Perhaps that HC and those ADs make that kind of buck because they paid attention, went to school, got an education and worked their way up there. They didn't suddenly wake up one morning and was offered those positions right out of grade school.
That is problem with people today, success has to come early and with little risk.
Again I say this is because society as a whole has put their priorities in the wrong place. We pay soldiers right out of high school less money to fight for our freedom than we do the ticket takers at the stadium, and a platoon of soldiers are less likely to make as much money in a decade than a high proile NFL player will make in a year.
That is problem with people today, success has to come early and with little risk.
Again I say this is because society as a whole has put their priorities in the wrong place. We pay soldiers right out of high school less money to fight for our freedom than we do the ticket takers at the stadium, and a platoon of soldiers are less likely to make as much money in a decade than a high proile NFL player will make in a year.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:34 am to Goldtide1
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I was. I also had some rather complex eligibility issues that weren’t related to grades that I prefer to not get into. It ultimately cost me my last two years of athletics. With that said, I don’t agree with pay for play, but I do agree with players being able to profit from their likeness if they are famous enough to do so. I admit that there are a ton of problems that will come with that and they will have to be planned for and amendments made along the way to keep things going in the right direction. Regardless, it should be done and the more power we can remove from the NCAA the better for the college athlete. That’s what should matter.
Here's my problem with this whole scenario: at upper P5 schools, there's going to be about a dozen football players at most, 4 or 5 basketball players, a couple of baseball players, and a couple of outliers like maybe a Justin Thomas on the golf team or a Katie Ledecky on the swim team that profit from this. The rest will be SOL and even the "successful" ones will be mostly looking at extra spending money, not life changing sums. There will be exceptions like a Zion Williamson but for the most part, maybe thousands of dollars. And the hundreds of other athletes on campus that bust their arse and devote just as much time don't get squat. And you've opened Pandora's box to any and all types of unscrupulous cons and schemes to hurt the athlete and the school for personal gain. I don't think this is a wise move. The Zions of the world will get paid anyway...eventually. Zion had to spend one whole year waiting for his millions. Where do I sign up for that?
I'm all for capitalism and market forces, but it's not a level playing field and it's going to have a LOT of unintended consequences and bad side effects. If I'm the All-American left tackle and I'm getting little or nothing and my QB who is a jerk and just a good player is getting some money from the local Ford dealer for advertisements and he pisses me off, who's to say I don't intentionally whiff on the next blitz? These situations will be magnified. You can think of all kinds of things like that.
There's way too much money and it's influence in "amateur" collegiate athletics as it is. So the answer to the problem is to throw more money into the mix? Yeah, let's put out the fire with gasoline. Maybe we should try to move back in the other direction and make these people STUDENT athletes again. If you want to be a pro or semi-pro, go to the minor or major leagues.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 11:45 am to Goldtide1
I was a walk on athlete at a D1 college.
Never did I think I should have been paid or should receive benefits from outside sources. I was also a walk on so I doubt many people are goin to be looking for an autograph or jersey of mine. My parents paid a part of my tuition and I had to take out a smaller amount of loans to finish school.
The experience itself offered way more benefits than a normal student received in regards to the social factor.
Now there was a guy in the same locker room as me who won a Heisman so maybe he felt different.
Never did I think I should have been paid or should receive benefits from outside sources. I was also a walk on so I doubt many people are goin to be looking for an autograph or jersey of mine. My parents paid a part of my tuition and I had to take out a smaller amount of loans to finish school.
The experience itself offered way more benefits than a normal student received in regards to the social factor.
Now there was a guy in the same locker room as me who won a Heisman so maybe he felt different.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:06 pm to TchPowDog
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It's not just this and it's not just Football and Basketball players. A lot of these athletes (swimmers, wrestlers, etc) would like to make money on the side as an instructor/trainer of their sport. Currently, they cannot do this and advertise that they do it - it's absurd!
The bill will allow athletes to do those types of things.
So a college swimmer can't give swimming lessons for money in the summer at all, or they just can't advertise that they are a swimmer at X University in order to get business?
Not really sure there's a case to let any athlete use their affiliation with a university to further their own cause. In that case, it's the university that is bringing in the business not the athlete's "likeness".
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:14 pm to AlaCowboy
You are under estimating how large of a scope this will become. This isn't about 5-10 players getting paid, every player on the FB and MBB getting appearance fees guaranteed to them. The dollars will be massive. There will be endowment funds the boosters are dispersing from at the request of the coach.
Every player - guarantee it. The question is whether it is $5k or $200k
Every player - guarantee it. The question is whether it is $5k or $200k
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:17 pm to LSU GrandDad
College football doesn’t have a nationwide appeal, it’s mostly a southern thing. Northerners and people out west like it sure, but it pales in comparison to interest in the nfl
Posted on 10/2/19 at 12:18 pm to LSU GrandDad
I hope so. I love college football but this system is kinda crap.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:08 pm to Goldtide1
??, obviously we aren't as good at it.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:19 pm to Goldtide1
OP is the same goober-smooch who made a thread whining about Bama posters getting downvotes 
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:31 pm to Vecchio Cane
There is a lot of people that agree with me if you actually read the thread retard. The courts will as well. Many of you are just too dumb to say you don’t know what you’re talking about on issues. Instead you flap your lips to make yourself feel better about your understanding of the world.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:33 pm to Vecchio Cane
See my prior post...
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This is true. The stance of many of these people truly surprise me. I wonder how many of these people’s stance on this issue conflict with their political views? I bet a lot. And I bet a lot don’t even realize it. That’s how stupid some people are. People just like to run their mouth on issues that they have a very limited understanding of because it makes them feel smart. In most instances regarding political issues and similar issues like this the proper response from the mass majority of people should be “I don’t know.” Instead, we get 6 pages of bull shite responses from people who most likely never even attempted to open a ncaa eligibility rule book or have zero clue of what the life of a college athlete looks like. They just flap their lips and write posts that make them feel better about themselves and their understanding of the world. Like I’ve stated earlier, either the NCAA will concede or the courts will decide for them. Neither path will be favorable to them and when it happens a lot of morons here will be shocked. Don’t take my word for it, go read any legal analysis dating back the last 5-10 years regarding issues relating to the NCAA and you will see that the writing is on the wall. Y’all ever see that guy post bull shite day after day on your Facebook newsfeed and you don’t even bother anymore to respond to it? Yea, that’s what reading this thread is like for anyone who has a clue.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:37 pm to JamalSanders
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I'm ready for all college sports to take on the ivy model.
Yep. It will deprive a lot of poor mostly black kids from getting a college education, but hey they won’t be exploited anymore.
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:38 pm to Goldtide1
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Many of you are just too dumb to say you don’t know what you’re talking about on issues
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The courts will as well
delicious. Thanks for that
Posted on 10/3/19 at 1:39 pm to Vecchio Cane
Have you ever read any legal analysis regarding issues pertaining to the ncaa? Especially as of late? That’s what I thought.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 1:41 pm
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