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re: UGA can become academically relevant by aligning w/ Georgia Tech

Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15963 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:32 pm to
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UT fans dont get to participate in academic discussions


UT MABE, look it up sometime. Or THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE SPACE INSTITUTE. Or the university of Tennessee medical center. These are the institutions that UGA hopes to one day have.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:42 pm to
Don't care, UT is ranked in the others receiving votes....
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 5:45 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:43 pm to
Bro, UGA takes a giant shite all over y'all when it comes to academics.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:45 pm to
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Tech is a great school, but it was founded by UGA grads and served as the states engineering school for years while UGA did liberal arts and MCG did Medical.

We have started an engineering program and medical, at some point we will dominate tech in that field as well as most professors and students would prefer Athens to the most ghetto part of atlanta.


I would bet that when you say "we", you are qualifying your inclusion as a football fan of the University of Georgia and not meaning you graduated from there. The University of Georgia is a fine institution and I wouldn't expect such a statement from a graduate. I'm not knocking Georgia's engineering department or trying to be arrogant about GT's, but your statement is pretty ludicrous if you are expecting Georgia's engineering department's reputation to pass GT's in the next hundred years. Georgia Tech has many programs that rank top 10 in the nation. The Industrial Engineering program has been ranked number one every time I have checked. The mechanical engineering program that I graduated from usually ranks in the top 5 every year.

With that said, in my opinion, a university gains its reputation based on three factors: the amount of research dollars allotted to it, the quality of students it attracts, and the employment opportunities afforded due to a degree from the institution. It all starts with the first item I listed and then the second two are direct results of the first. I'm no genius and recognized during my freshman year at another university that if I wanted an advantage in finding a job, I needed to transfer to a university that was more competitive. The university I attended as a freshman was full of people that were attending because high school was over and they had nothing better to do. It was easy, especially since most college grades are based on a curve, to make good grades with little effort. Georgia Tech was the opposite end of the spectrum for me. It was extremely difficult for me to get to the point to where my grades were acceptable there. Notice I didn't mention incredible academic instruction that was available at GT. To be honest with you, I had a couple of good professors, but most were not good instructors and valued doing research over the side gig of teaching they had to do. It's the competition among your peers, especially with the curve system, not the instruction. It's the quality of the student and reputation that also bring in the employers. At our career fairs there were hundreds of companies there exclusively to recruit engineers. At other university career fairs that I have attended as a representative for my employer, it has always been a much smaller number of companies participating. I've been to career fairs at other universities where it was embarrassing at the lack of companies participating.

Bottom line, I expect Georgia Tech to win the 2 or 3 more national championships in football before the engineering department at Georgia passes us in reputation. Nothing against the University of Georgia, I'm just saying....
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:46 pm to
And UF, being an arch rival, pushed us to keep up academically in the late 80s.

For that, I am appeciative.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15963 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:04 pm to
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Don't care, UT is ranked in the others receiving votes...


For engineering or medical?

For engineering they are 62 overall and have a 50 year relationship with NASA with their space institute.

UGA is tied at 102 overall with their best going to Tech.

As for overall UT is a top 105 university in the country (6th in the SEC) with excellent long standing medical and engineering schools and research facilities. UGA does have a very nice Vet school and a very solid landscaping school and a very nice law prep school.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:07 pm to
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And UF, being an arch rival, pushed us to keep up academically in the late 80s.

For that, I am appeciative.

It's amazing what HOPE has done for academics in GA.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:11 pm to
No one cares hillbilly. Look at the difference in what is takes to get in UGA vs UT... Stark comparison from high 1350s sat and 33 act being our mean.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79202 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:14 pm to
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No one cares hillbilly. Look at the difference in what is takes to get in UGA vs UT... Stark comparison from high 1350s sat and 33 act being our mean.



You sound like a child
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:17 pm to
You sound like a baby. See how easy that is...
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79202 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:20 pm to
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You sound like a baby. See how easy that is...





Perhaps you're an actual child?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:21 pm to
Perhaps you are a pedophile?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79202 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:24 pm to
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Perhaps you are a pedophile?



What a disgrace
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 6:25 pm to
You protest too much.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46488 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:17 pm to
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UGA does have a very nice Vet school and a very solid landscaping school and a very nice law prep school.

And Business school
And Journalism school
And Pharmacy school
And Forestry school
And Agriculture school (specifically poultry and turf grass)

Medical College was proposed but smothered in its crib when MCG and Augusta threw a bitch fit at the state level because they knew the public school competition would destroy their local economy. So now it’s just a glorified pre-Med/public health program/campus.

As for research dollars, the vast majority go to medical and engineering programs (neither of which UGA had as of a decade ago). With the med school falling through, the latest campus wide endeavor has been to promote entrepreneurship and innovation with incentives and resources/lab space for professors to research and produce novel inventions in their field.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:31 pm to
I love how folks were goading UGA fans to hate on tech and they were like fine school, would welcome them in the SEC, and be nice if they got in the Big10. Lol.

That said, if I was the Big10 in charge of everything, I would add UVA, UNC, Duke, Clemson, Tech, and Florida state.

Power move, imo. Should have left the left coast to continue their college athletics rot.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29165 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:40 pm to
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He was a great coach and a good man and did a lot for Tech, but that singular decision is a stain on his legacy.


Yet the Tech Men that kissed Dodd's arse renamed Grant Field after him in the late 80s anyway.
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 7:53 pm to
Imagine if your in state rival just quit. They could never do so in an official capacity, but they accomplished it effectively. It’s not as great.

Part of you enjoys the wins but a still small part of you is cheering for them to get up off the mat. I’m tired of Tech sucking. I want them to get it together. You can revoke my Dawg card, but I want Tech to get it together. And if they won’t then just give it up because that game isnt fun any more. And I was in school for George Godsey and Joe Hamilton. I remember losing 3 in a row. All the same, I wish they’d get up.



This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:17 pm to
University system of GA was just a bit different from most when they decided to separate out the disciplines, and because of that UGA likely did lose out of some research money as most goes toward STEM, but with HOPE and the increase in academic standing at Georgia, the school has become more attractive to the profs that bring in the research money. Every time I go, there is another big lab going up. A large amount of biochem research is being done there now. Athens was in the final three for Plum Island national biodefense lab for a reason.

To the person bemoaning Tech needing to educate more instate students- you are going to need to bring the state's secondary schools up to snuff first so that the students are ready for the challenge. The best way to do that is to start consolidating counties. So much money is wasted on too many tiny (both in land and in population) counties in Georgia.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 7/5/22 at 9:25 pm to
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The best way to do that is to start consolidating counties. So much money is wasted on too many tiny (both in land and in population) counties in Georgia.


I think that would help a lot of municipal governments.

I dont think it helps education, though.
Smaller counties are much more flexible to grab an initiative and run with it.
Smaller counties are much more flexible to grab newer technology and run with it.

I agree that secondary institutions have a lot of room for growth. I just disagree with your prescription for cure.
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