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re: Truth about A&M

Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:15 am to
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First the negative. We have never done ANYTHING a all that relevant in college football. Ever.


I watched closely 1998 season all the way through the Sugar Bowl vs Ohio State (best team in country that year IMO). 1990's and Slocum were very good years!

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So what does this mean? Simple really. It’s in most of college footballs best interest for the status quo at A&M to remain. No one wants to have to deal with 2 Texas teams that are legitimate title contenders on a regular basis.


To me the real key question is if such "legitimate title contenders", why then the said status quo?

Here is my 2 cents (pun intended...keep reading) on why this is after many years of living in Texas and watching A&M program relatively closely.

Look no further than the words that you used after "their potential is monumental". Cash, buy anything they want, etc. I'll come back to this.

There is A LOT of self love in your culture. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with being proud of who you are (and you have a lot to be proud of), I have found greater self love reverb in your university's culture than in most places.

A look at yourself in your own mirror is not unimpressive. Look at our AAU status. Look at our size. Look at our endowment fund. And then there is the encompassing Texas mindset; look at our skylines, our high school football stadiums, number of lanes of our highways. Look at our $, $$, $$$, $$$$, $$$$$. We are great.

However, herein your "legitimate contenders" barriers are born. Have found for many years, as related to your football results, your self-pride is too narrowly focused on your rich (but shallow) war chests. As if big war chest automatically yields championship football.

You have had a big war chest for many, many years (Texas too), yet look at your college football results. Compare to legitimate title contenders of the last 25-years. Do you see any differences? Look closely. Closer than cash, buy anything they want... Do you see the differences?

Resources are critically important. But your self love has blinded you to what really matters in championship results (details as subject of another post).

NIL has clearly changed the game, but IMO here you go again. Will your misguided faith in what you believe (shallowly) drives championship prevail yet again? Or, will A&M finally get the whole right?
Posted by HongDong
Member since Jan 2020
175 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:17 am to
Leave it to A&M to try to derail some good Harsin content....
Posted by Drew Peanuts
Nortshore
Member since Aug 2013
102 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:22 am to
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Uhhh... aggy aint FSU which was a true elite program back in the day.


And Jimbo didn't build that program either. That was Bobby's machine. Jimbo just got to drive it one day. Also, not to mention that the run was in the weak azz ACC. I don't know if anyone is paying atttention, but there is no comparison to the SEC West. The test of Jimbo is how did he sustain after the natty.

CBB retired 2009, Jimbo won natty 2013. 1 cycle. He's been at 8&4 for that time, hasn't sniffed a conference title, much less at playoff birth and appearance in the natty.

He even mentioned in his interview on NSD, during the day, about what they need because this is how they did it at FSU. So, it kind of reminds me of CEO, yeah he did it, blind luck and all, but he has no idea how he did it and cannot get it back to that.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:27 am to
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But this year was another level. So I agree. But to think they wouldn’t still be extremely high is wrong as well.


No one is saying AM/Jimbo couldn’t land a top 5 class.

But what you’re ignoring is signing 8 5stars in previous 7 years…to signing 7 in the first year of NIL and highest rated class ever, with no evidence of trending that way or winning anything if significance that justifies it.

This class has Red Flags all over it and that’s why you saw Jimbo’s panic press conference. He went straight to calling other schools out for cheating…cheating was only mentioned by HIM! He knows this class brought way too much attention.

We’re in the NIL world, but don’t go all SMU with it, which is what AM did lol. Sign 2-3 5stars, he’s not being asked about NIL lol. If y’all choose to ignore that, go right ahead. But Jimbo is a damn fool saying 12th man/hard work / academics got this class lol

If Texas/LSU landed this class, you would be with everyone else calling it out.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:29 am to
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There was absolutely no reason for A&M to lose to LSU this past season.


Dude. We simply didn’t have a QB that was reliable. It’s not complicated. Don’t make it into some secret formula A&M needs to find. An average Mond had a Jimbo team beating most teams in the west. A below average Calzada had us losing way more than we should.

We have two 5 star QBs and Max Johnson now. Not the same equation as last year. Now we most likely will be a repeat of the Mond season. Still lose a couple, probably second in the west.

And yes, we probably best LSU at Kyle. And lose to Bama. Maybe drop another road game.

Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2753 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:30 am to
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A&M has shown signs of actually being what they should be.


So what was keeping them from being what they "should be" before....? Must have been some unknown cosmic injustice victimizing a&m. What one thing is the critical change in the college world that was keeping a&m from being what they "should be". (who decides what "should be" in this case seems to be one one cult like group of people but lets gloss over that)

Just be honest and say "woohooo... we can pay really talented players that would never have come here in the first place to come now." That's it. No wrong being righted. No correction being made. No righteous being vindicated. No making what "should be" finally happen. You just have some old rich oil guys who can now pay for wins. Nothing romantic there.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 10:33 am
Posted by ClassicCityAlum
Palm Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2019
883 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:33 am to
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Lol all these people that supposedly don’t care just happened to care enough to respond.


What are you, fricking six years old?

OP made an assertion, the Rant respectfully read his assertion, and overwhelmingly decided that it was garbage. Baseless postulating about a team’s “potential” that hasn’t accomplished jack shite in 80+ years is irrelevant. Pointing out the irrelevancy of his claim in a forum (FYI: the purpose of a forum is to read + discuss) is not proof that his claim has merit. What kind of critical thinking is that? “You responded to my garbage post, thus you must care about my opinion, thus my opinion has merit.”

Grow the frick up, farmer / mechanic boy.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:34 am to
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You just have some old rich oil guys who can now pay for wins. Nothing romantic there.


Kentucky basketball says howdy.
Posted by McNet
Member since Nov 2020
227 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:37 am to
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Dude. We simply didn’t have a QB that was reliable. It’s not complicated


And this is ALL on Jimbo. Jimbo recruited him and didn't have him ready after three yrs in his system??? All for $9m a yea???. You're right, it isn't that complicated to see where most of the aggy problems are. lol
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7609 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:37 am to
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Truth about A&M

Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:37 am to
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What are you, fricking six years old? OP made an assertion, the Rant respectfully read his assertion, and overwhelmingly decided that it was garbage. Baseless postulating about a team’s “potential” that hasn’t accomplished jack shite in 80+ years is irrelevant. Pointing out the irrelevancy of his claim in a forum (FYI: the purpose of a forum is to read + discuss) is not proof that his claim has merit. What kind of critical thinking is that? “You responded to my garbage post, thus you must care about my opinion, thus my opinion has merit.” Grow the frick up, farmer / mechanic boy.


Is he really wrong though? LSU has freaked out over A&M the past few years, it’s hard to deny that.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:42 am to
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Resources are critically important. But your self love has blinded you to what really matters in championship results (details as subject of another post). NIL has clearly changed the game, but IMO here you go again. Will your misguided faith in what you believe (shallowly) drives championship prevail yet again? Or, will A&M finally get the whole right?


Lots of truth here. A&M has never handled success well. And self love is a reason for that. I agree. Having everything is a doubled edged sword. You have advantages but hard work trumps money. A&M hasn’t traditionally got that.

Lots of entitlement in the program. I think you have a point here. A very good one.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:44 am to
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And this is ALL on Jimbo. Jimbo recruited him and didn't have him ready after three yrs in his system??? All for $9m a yea???. You're right, it isn't that complicated to see where most of the aggy problems are. lol


Absolutely. And we have addressed that by recruiting 2 QBs. Time will tell.
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
834 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:47 am to
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No one wants to have to deal with 2 Texas teams that are legitimate title contenders


2? Which 2 would that be? Hell, which 1?
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2427 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:48 am to
Bro post this on the A&M board. No one wants to hear your pep talk to yourself
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:49 am to
I agree with most of this. Reminds me of LSU in the 90's. The potental is there, but no one to execute on taking it to the next level. Is Jimbo that guy? I guess we will see.

I think the real question is, can Jimbo build and sustain a program. He is a fantastic recruiter and brought in great classes at FSU. The problem was he didn't do well in the character check department. It did bring him at Natty, but it also crumbled to the ground very quickly after.

This class could make or break him. If a majority of these guys came because of NIL, then that doesn't seem like a solid foundation and could lead to mass defection if things go off the rails next season.

And people get on Aggie because of the way they act, but the truth is they don't know how to act. They haven't been there... yet.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:51 am to
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2? Which 2 would that be? Hell, which 1?


Context man. It’s a thing. I was speaking to which teams could buy a championship if the NIL rules stay like this year. Either you didn’t read well, or you’re intentionally implying things not said. Either way, I’m not surprised.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16104 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:54 am to
If Batman can be a superhero than TAMU can be a National Champion. You both have the same special quality, namely you’re rich.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:57 am to
The difference is batman lost both of his parents, whereas A&M still has to play LSU and Texas soon enough, so that aspect doesn't apply
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10401 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:58 am to
Yes. It will change.
If nothing else, the money bags are going to wake up and realize that they aren't getting any kind of ROI.
Right now they are kind of drunk on the 'potential'.
Potential is nothing unless it is realized. There are quite a few schools with 'potential', aTm doesn't have that market cornered.
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