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Transfer Portal Is Retarded

Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:39 am
Posted by purplepanther
Member since Sep 2021
550 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:39 am
First of all, I'm an LSU fan and we haven’t had anyone jump in the portal yet, at least to my knowledge, so this isn't a melt post. Secondly we built our team through the transfer portal and probably wouldn’t be where we are today without it.

With that being said, I still don't like the transfer portal. My question for you all is, do we really want ncaa free agency every off season? Do we really want college football to be more like the NFL? Do you really want to watch players that played for your team go to a different team in your conference and play against you the very next season? Also I want to point out that this is not a melt because I know some idiot is going to put "melt". I genuinely care about this topic when it relates to any team. As much as I hate Alabama and A&M, I really don’t think it is fair when their players from top recruiting classes just jump in the portal and abandon ship. I know some people here are glad they’re abandoning ship because they (A&M for sure) bought the players, but if we reinstated the old transfer rules then the players would have to think twice about taking that money in recruiting. Right now there is no pressure because they can transfer at any time they want. Overall, I just don’t see how this is a good thing for college football. It really makes me not as excited about it as I used to be.

Also before anyone says I’m a boomer or that this is an old way of thinking.. I'm 20 and I’ve watched college football since before I could wipe my own a**.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:42 am to
The effect will be more parity but a worse brand of football. Not only do you lose depth BUT all of those reps your starters hit against quality players who could physically compete just didn’t have enough knowledge to start yet. Now your starters are going against 3rd string players that can’t co Pete physically
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105386 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:43 am to
quote:

My question for you all is, do we really want ncaa free agency every off season?



Doesn't matter what we want. NIL is here to stay. The only thing now is looking to regulate it some, but colleges and the NCAA really fricked up by not having that in place before it began.

Not to mention that state laws play a part as well.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29263 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:43 am to
what are you going to do about it?
Posted by dallastide
Dallas
Member since Nov 2015
106 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:44 am to
As much as I wanted to comment "melt" I agree with everything you wrote.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:46 am to
NIL and portal have changed my mind on playoff expansion as well. I think as time goes on we will see most of those 13 teams being competitive whereas now you can pretty much guises the three teams that will have the best shop. Also dynasties like the last 15 yrs will be a thing of the past
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42370 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:47 am to
Coaches are gonna lose their mind trying to keep their rosters intact while recruiting high school kids on top of recruiting the portal.
But then again, coaches are getting paid to deal with this and getting paid quite well.

Without the portal and the recruiting class restrictions that were in place even last year, LSU would not have been able to field a 85 man roster this season if not for the portal especially with the 25 man limit.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:50 am to
I can’t speak to the validity of the comments but high school coaches on Alabama radio are complaint that it is more difficult for high school kids outside of the top 300 or so are unable to find college homes. The days of discovering an undersized Tyrrane Matthieu wil be less frequent.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2727 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

My question for you all is, do we really want ncaa free agency every off season?


Not sure you are going to find anyone who is cool with kids jumping ship every season. Maybe people who love chaos but almost everyone here would prefer it not be the case. You might get someone being happy they got some awesome transfer in one post but you need to take that specific reaction in a vacuum. It's a shitty situation and you can't expect someone not to be happy about a bright spot for their team that came in the shitty situation.

The NCAA made their bed on this. I blame them for not getting out in front of it because you have to suspend disbelief to not see a reckoning coming. I go back to when they fricked Jeremy Bloom over back in 2002. I thought that was the beginning of the end. The public saw them screwing over an Olympic athlete while they were really starting to pull in the cash. And the optics on the NCAA never got better. They also really didn't have the law on their side.

This gets better when the conferences take over from the NCAA and accept it is going to be a pro model. You can't go back to amateur. Players unionize, there are CBAs drawn up and you get some rules resembling a salary cap and free agency. That is the only way you get rid of this one year gun for hire system we have now.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105386 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:54 am to
I get it and I was antagonistic towards it happening, but it's going to require another staff to handle all the logistics, needs, etc, to manage your roster year in and year out.

The worms are out and of course I was told there is no slippery slopes and nothing that can't be handled.

These collectives will eventually need budgets of 40-60 Million. People will jump in the portals just to get a raise from their current school, or dash for greener pastures.

Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2426 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:55 am to
Depth is the biggest issue. Most notably at QB. But it does help with parity imo which is overall better for cfb. I just wish I could tell how good some of these transfers are or if they were just bench riders.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52339 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Without the portal and the recruiting class restrictions that were in place even last year, LSU would not have been able to field a 85 man roster this season if not for the portal especially with the 25 man limit.





They didn't have a roster of 85, only 71.

If the portal didn't exist, they'd have never been in a hole roster wise either though.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32625 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

what are you going to do about it?
Your mom
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2727 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I can’t speak to the validity of the comments but high school coaches on Alabama radio are complaint that it is more difficult for high school kids outside of the top 300 or so are unable to find college homes. The days of discovering an undersized Tyrrane Matthieu wil be less frequent.

I have a feeling that may be a temporary situation. Things need to settle a bit and these high schools and colleges will figure a way to adjust their scouting and recruiting methods. Especially if teams find that they are having issues remaining successful without "projects" that will provide depth and special teams without having to worry as much that they jump ship after one season like you would some 4 or 5 star.
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2773 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:01 am to
These are my sentiments in totality, and this old boomer who still doesn't think he's old very much appreciates your ability to express yourself in a lucid and coherent manner. It's a rare talent these days across all age groups.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:01 am to
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Retarded………LSU fan


Gathered all the info we need. We’ll be in touch.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83422 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:02 am to
quote:

Do we really want college football to be more like the NFL?
It isn’t like the NFL

They at least have contracts

Imagine an NFL where after every season every single player has a chance to jump to a new team.
Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2617 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:05 am to
I think it should be like in the past where a kid can transfer if they want, but make it so that they lose a year of eligbility and have to sit out a year to make them really consider whether its worth it or not to transfer. I dont think many people want a college football free agency every offseason, but with NIL and the portal, thats pretty much what you'll have unless some restrictions are placed on it.
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2773 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:10 am to
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. Things need to settle a bit and these high schools and colleges will figure a way to adjust their scouting and recruiting methods. Especially if teams find that they are having issues remaining successful without "projects" that will provide depth and special teams without having to worry as much that they jump ship after one season like you would some 4 or 5 star.
IMO, this is the very reason Georgia has catapulted to the top of college football. Nobody gets out there and beats the bushes for that diamond in the rough like Kirby does.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12935 posts
Posted on 12/2/22 at 11:11 am to
Stipulations need to be in place that if you transfer, you have to sit out and forfeit some of your NIL money. It's like a sign on bonus in the medical field. You trade money for time of service up front and you also may have a non-compete clause when you leave before your term or after. It has to be reined in somehow. I don't mind NIL per se, but the transfer thing bugs me. What's the point of a scholarship if I am a blue chip, sign a deal, don't like riding the bench, transfer within my conference after one year, get a new NIL deal with my new team. Repeat, Repeat.
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