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re: Transfer Portal Is Retarded
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:44 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:44 pm to DawginSC
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You aren't off your current team when you enter the portal. YOu are when you sign the transfer documents. Those who are NOT picked up are still on scholarship at the school they were thinking of leaving. They just take their name out of the portal.
That is not necessarily true.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:46 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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If a coach can break his contract/commitment to a team and take a position with another school, you'd have to be a shitty person to say a student athlete cannot.
Coaches have contracts and damages clauses (buyouts) that address breaching an employment contract (leaving early). One doesn't have to be a shitty person to recognize those situations are apples to oranges.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:46 pm to purplepanther
Agree with you.
We just signed Judkins to an NIL deal through 23-24 season. Had signing pictures and all sorts of shite.
Like a fricking contract signing and second signing day rolled into one.
That being said. Pumped he’s signed.
We just signed Judkins to an NIL deal through 23-24 season. Had signing pictures and all sorts of shite.
Like a fricking contract signing and second signing day rolled into one.
That being said. Pumped he’s signed.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:47 pm to DawginSC
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The reality is that entering the transfer portal doesn't take you off your current team. Signing transfer papers does.
The reality is, yes, many times entering the portal does terminate your scholarship. When you enter the portal, the school has a right to terminate your scholarship, and many do exactly that
Posted on 12/2/22 at 1:54 pm to lsufball19
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What the NCAA should do, since all NIL money has to be reported to the school, is require that any player who receives NIL money is required to remain at their school for X number of years OR just go back to how transfer rules worked before.
Can't see the courts allowing the NCAA or school to make different transfer rules for athletes that take NIL money and those that don't. I can't see that flying.
The issue is the schools have created a wall between the monetary relationship these athletes are entering into related to NIL and the relationship between the school and athlete. They have to keep it separate. It is how they are keeping their sorta non-for-profit status. Once you start making rules that differentiate the "paid" and "unpaid" athletes, the school is basically admitting that the payments are related to their play (i know I know... we have been suspending disbelief here but that is the frayed string holding up this façade). They are already walking a fine line trying to deny these athletes are employees. Anything that perpetuates that belief further now would probably be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I think it is inevitable but they are hitting a spot where they are going to have to carve out certain portions of the athletic department that just doesn't get non-for-profit preferences any longer.
I said this earlier but the conferences will probably take over and just bite the bullet on the semi-pro model. The athletes will be in unions and there will be a CBA. Then you will have a structure that resembles a salary cap and contracts that are not for one year (unless you hit certain more strict qualifying circumstances where you could transfer in one year). They will probably do everything they can to dress it up as though it isn't a business relationship but the basics of an employer/employee relationship will evident and out in the open. It seems the only way to add better regulation.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:00 pm to labamafan
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Alabama radio are complaint that it is more difficult for high school kids outside of the top 300 or so are unable to find college homes. The days of discovering an undersized Tyrrane Matthieu wil be less frequent.
All of this is correct. 5* kicker in Louisiana can't find a scholarship. #1 kicker in this class came from Div 2 (I think) and is in the portal.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:02 pm to labamafan
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Also dynasties like the last 15 yrs will be a thing of the past
What dynasties have there been besides Alabama?
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:07 pm to labamafan
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Without the portal and the recruiting class restrictions that were in place even last year, LSU would not have been able to field a 85 man roster this season if not for the portal especially with the 25 man limit.
Without the portal or NIL, you wouldn't have players leaving in large because they would have to sit out. Also less players leaving on every team, meaning no real glaring roster holes.
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I can’t speak to the validity of the comments but high school coaches on Alabama radio are complaint that it is more difficult for high school kids outside of the top 300 or so are unable to find college homes. The days of discovering an undersized Tyrrane Matthieu wil be less frequent.
Deon Sanders spoke on this earlier this year. He pretty much admitted what he and most coaches are doing. They are looking at the portal to fill roster holes more than they are looking at High School players. Especially at smaller schools. They want someone who has the size and skill along with experience in college programs as a priority over kids coming out of high school.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 2:14 pm to purplepanther
It takes the heart out of college football. Even pro teams have players that come up through developmental leagues or are drafted, and players under longterm contracts that you reasonably know you can enjoy wearing the uniform for 4 or more years.
College doesn't have that anymore. You are watching mercenaries playing for the school you follow, and we all know it. That's the bad taste in your mouth.
College doesn't have that anymore. You are watching mercenaries playing for the school you follow, and we all know it. That's the bad taste in your mouth.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 4:49 pm to lsufball19
quote:What other double standards do you favor?
Coaches have contracts and damages clauses (buyouts) that address breaching an employment contract (leaving early). One doesn't have to be a shitty person to recognize those situations are apples to oranges.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:13 pm to labamafan
Sounds like bamas are melting.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:25 pm to lsufball19
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That is not necessarily true.
True, you could be kicked off the team prior to entering the portal. The point is that if you can’t find a home and can’t go back to your old team, it’s because your old team revoked your scholarship. Not because you entered the portal.
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:27 pm to purplepanther
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Also before anyone says I’m a boomer or that this is an old way of thinking.. I'm 20 and I’ve watched college football since before I could wipe my own a**.
Most of the phags who cry "boomer" in response to those pissing on the transfer portal, NIL and playoffs never played football, spend more time in a gamer chair than the gym and will each die a "proud virgin".
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:30 pm to lsufball19
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The reality is, yes, many times entering the portal does terminate your scholarship. When you enter the portal, the school has a right to terminate your scholarship, and many do exactly that
The school can terminate your scholarship at any point with no reason needed. The point is the school is the one who ends the scholarship. Entering the portal doesn’t do that. The player not being allowed back is ALWAYS the school’s decision. Entering the portal does not cause that.
This post was edited on 12/2/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:32 pm to deputyfife
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College doesn't have that anymore. You are watching mercenaries playing for the school you follow, and we all know it. That's the bad taste in your mouth.
Then maybe college programs shouldn't have treated the players so horribly when it was the college that had all the leverage....
Posted on 12/2/22 at 5:33 pm to PassingThrough
NIL and Xfer portal with no restrictions is total chaos. It will have to be reigned in eventually.
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