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re: This is why a 16 team playoff like every other NCAA Division would rock

Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:03 pm to
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16 is irredeemably stupid



Those matchups look pretty awesome to me. Guess I’m irredeemably stupid
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:05 pm to
So you think over 10% of the programs each year deserve a shot?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64981 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:07 pm to
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So you think over 10% of the programs each year deserve a shot?



Why not? Almost 38% of NFL teams get a shot every single year.

Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
3935 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:09 pm to
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A 6 team playoff would be perfection.
That would work. And if it were to be today - here's the top 6 and the list of others who would not make it....

IN:
bama
miami
clemson
wisc
oklahoma
auburn

OUT:
UCF - 10-0
USC - Likely to win Pac12
OSU
Georgia
TCU

Of course that list will change after this last weekend and conference title games.

Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:29 pm to
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In no universe does the 16th ranked team in the country deserve to be competing for a national championship. Not in college football.


Firstly, holy cow you a terrified. That’s hilarious.

Secondly, in no universe does a team who do not win their conference, did not play in their conference chamionship game, and did win their sub-division deserve to play for a National championship. Definitely not in college football...
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 11/19/17 at 4:59 pm to
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Why not? Almost 38% of NFL teams get a shot every single year.


That's not much of a selling point
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58042 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:08 pm to
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In no universe does the 16th ranked team in the country deserve to be competing for a national championship. Not in college football.


And yet that's the way they do it at every other level of college football...

FCS - 16 teams
D2 - 28 teams
D3 - 32 teams
NAIA - 16 teams

This post was edited on 11/19/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11833 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

I’m okay with 8.


I would be alright with this but

quote:

P5 conference winners and 3 at large


This no way. It should be the top 8 teams in the final rankings with no consideration to winning your conference. This P5 crap is just that. There are G5 teams that could beat a lot of P5 teams. Play your regular season 12 games and if you get lucky and play in the CCG, the top 8 go no matter what conference they are from.

P5 winner should not be a free pass.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3127 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:20 pm to
The BCS selection format was way better than this crap we have now. Top 4, 6, or even 8 with the BCS selection format. The committee is goofy. It's fine for a way to pick 64-68 teams in CBB, but it sucks for 4 in football.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30858 posts
Posted on 11/19/17 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

FCS - 16 teams
D2 - 28 teams
D3 - 32 teams
NAIA - 16 teams


Have the #3 and #4 teams been destroyed in those tournaments?
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58042 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:00 am to
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Have the #3 and #4 teams been destroyed in those tournaments?


Sure, sometimes they do. What does that even matter? A 16 team playoff won't start a month after everyone's last game so the odds that multiple teams lay complete eggs will be diminished significantly.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:57 am to
I think a suedo 16 team playoff would work

Eliminate all G5 championship games

Play P5 ccgs as scheduled. (10)
Top 2 G5 champs meet on campus (2)
4 at large P5 / Ind meet in 2 games on campus (2)

Winners of all 8 games then sceeded for on campus games the following week. (Only conf champs/ or top 4 ranked Ind can host)

Advance to playoffs as is.

I know a lot of people talk about eye test and what they believe is the best team as compared to most deserving. Hey bfortunatkey I think a lot times the “best teams” are who ESPN deems is. With 130 teams I tend to lean toward most deserving.

I truly think that you need to win something before winning something else. I say this knowledge ng there is a chance UGA doesn’t win SEC and will be one of the teams looking at that final spot.

But with 4 teams only , you need to win so nothing first. And that goes for any team no matter who they are.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24697 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 5:31 am to
quote:

I’m okay with 8. 

P5 conference winners and 3 at large. 
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:22 am to
quote:

This is why a 16 team playoff like every other NCAA Division would rock



HELL NO,

But you don't need a playoff if the NCAA would get rid of the RENT A WIN games from non conference opponents.

Replace the BUY A WIN games with other POWER 5 Conference games and everyone would damn near play each other before the national title game.

Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84835 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:24 am to
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Completely different world in FBS. When is the last time you saw a 16th ranked team that was a legitimate national title contender?

I can’t think of any. Ever.


didnt Bama finish around 16th in 1942 yet still claimed the NC?
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:28 am to
quote:

This is why a 16 team playoff like every other NCAA Division would rock

quote:

No. 16 Mississippi State

okie dokie
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30592 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:18 am to
Good post.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20335 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Completely different world in FBS. When is the last time you saw a 16th ranked team that was a legitimate national title contender?

I can’t think of any. Ever.


Well, if I remember, LSU in 2001 was ranked somewhere around there, maybe lower. That was before they beat #2 Tennessee in the SEC championship game without their starting QB, and then incinerated a 10-1 Illinois (whatever they were ranked) in the Sugar.

They would have been seeded low, but nobody would want them on their side of the bracket. Worthy to win a title? Maybe not by BCS standards, but on the field they could beat you.

But the real problem with 16, is that then there is enough teams, that you have to include the MAC, Sun Belt etc.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:55 am to
If the 16th ranked team beats consecutively the #1 team, then the # 8 team, then the #4 team, then the #2 team, they should be the National Champions.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73472 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:00 pm to
An 8-team playoff with a more objective ranking system would be ideal.
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