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re: This is how stupid our fan base got during the Chad Morris era
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:06 pm to wartiger2004
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:06 pm to wartiger2004
No one knows. He wasn't hired to turn things around to Petrino levels. He was a last ditch hire that will hopefully stop the bleeding temporarily. His goals are to change the toxic nature that Chad created here. Build better relationships with Arkansas high school coaches that will help instate recruiting. End the SEC losing streak and get Arkansas to bowling again. He was not hired as a long term solution here but hopefully he will leave it better for the next coach.
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:12 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Then who do you suggest with rest of the lowly Journalists? As I said the choices are slim to none.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:12 pm to rockiee
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Oh it was posted
There is alot of articles out there, here is one excerpt
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Petrino was fired for failing to disclose his relationship with Dorrell, the former Arkansas volleyball player whom he hired last month without disclosing his conflict of interest or the fact he had once paid her $20,000 that she used to buy a car. The payment, Long wrote, could make the school "vulnerable to sexual harassment" lawsuit.
Don't see where it was posted. The comment about "vulnerable to sexual harassment" lawsuit tells me they were more concerned about Dorrell suing the Athletic Department. A lot of AD jobs are funded thru Athletic Foundations and are not subject to the same guidelines as a State Funded job.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:16 pm to dchog
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Then who do you suggest with rest of the lowly Journalists? As I said the choices are slim to none.
None of them
Especially Mike Irwin
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:22 pm to Irons Puppet
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The comment about "vulnerable to sexual harassment" lawsuit tells me they were more concerned about Dorrell suing the Athletic Department.
That is just one aspect, the issue with the other applicants was as well and the manner in which Petrino cheated the rules to get her the job faster.
Here is a quote from the ESPN article
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And they show Petrino and Dorrell claimed to have ended the intimate part of their relationship once it became clear she wanted to apply for a job under Petrino -- one he wanted her to "earn." She was hired on March 28 and has since resigned.
Here is another from SI
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Former Arkansas football coach Bobby Petrino tried to sidestep University of Arkansas guidelines to quickly hire his mistress, Jessica Dorrell, as the team's player development coordinator, according to documents obtained by SI.com. The documents show that Petrino sought a waiver to circumvent a university affirmative action policy requiring that the job be posted for at least 30 days before interviews could commence. Dorrell's first interview was scheduled even before the waiver was granted by the university's Office of Equal Opportunity and Compliance.
sent a memo to Danielle Wood, the school's assistant director of affirmative action, asking if interviews for the position could begin even though the job had been listed for just five days, not the required 30.
There you go, that shows you it was posted. SI attained this from a FOI request
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:25 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Ok then. None of them can be trusted. We will just have to go by speculation, assumptions and rumors. I don't care either way.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:33 pm to rockiee
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That is just one aspect, the issue with the other applicants was as well and the manner in which Petrino cheated the rules to get her the job faster.
Again, doesn't mean it wasn't designed and written for her. As a matter of fact it sounds like she probably was the only applicant and why they sought a five day waiver. Any government posted job can not be hired prior to the closing of the announcement and all applicants who qualify have to be interviewed.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:39 pm to Irons Puppet
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Again, doesn't mean it wasn't designed and written for her.
The title of the job was Player Development Coordinator. It wasn't designed or written for her except in the sense that Petrino knew who he was going to hire before the process started no matter who applied.
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As a matter of fact it sounds like she probably was the only applicant and why they sought a five day waiver.
No, it mentions candidates in the article as in plural.
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At 10:44 a.m. that same day, approval was granted to interview candidates
As we can see, very different than Wimp
Posted on 7/15/20 at 2:47 pm to dchog
Okay that I get. 
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:02 pm to wartiger2004
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This didn't answer the question of how you know that a guy with zero D1 experience and is on the cusp of retirement is going to turn around that decade long shite show known as razorback football.
Turning around the program in terms of wins is different than turning around the culture. We need baby steps right now.
I'll say this - Pittman grew up less than 2 hours from Fayetteville and grew up going to games under Lou Holtz. He wanted the job so bad he cried when he got it and understands and has a passion for the program. He has tons of experience coaching and recruiting in the SEC. And every single player he's ever coached loves him and no one has ever said a bad thing about his character.
Those are all things I don't think Bielema or Morris had. Morris never even moved his family to Arkansas. Pittman got frustrated with Bielema's drinking and ended up leaving because he would try to host big time OL recruits and Bielema was either drunk or "forgot" and took a vacation to the Bahamas with Jen. Bielema not taking recruiting seriously and getting lazy toward the end is what started us going from on the cusp of 9 wins, to back to back 2-10 seasons.
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Arkansas has been terrible at football for decades. Your best year is a division title
Eh, just depends if you consider an 11-2 season and #5 final ranking better than a season with fewer wins and a worse final ranking but a division title. Our 2010 Sugar Bowl team IMO is better than our 2006 team and they didn't win the West.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:08 pm to craigbiggio
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Arkansas is so fascinating. So much political intrigue and fighting over a mediocre program.
Was that also another factor for Nutt leaving in 2007? Maybe memory is fading.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:11 pm to SpartyGator
I could be mistaken but I believe the whole bs with Nutt and Malzahn along with Mitch Mustaine is part of why he bailed for Ole Miss. The Arky fans can definitely shine more light on that.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:14 pm to wartiger2004
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The Arky fans can definitely shine more light on that.
I've shed light on it several times and no one listened so I'm not doing it again
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:34 pm to rockiee
You are making an assumption. They would always reference the plural for any job opening. The 5 days tells me they knew she was the only applicant and wanted to shorten the process. The fact that a waiver was requested tells you how this was being handled. HR doesn’t even tell the requesting department who is qualified for the job until it closes.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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You are making an assumption.
Thats actually what you are doing. I'm using what evidence I have to draw a conclusion.
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The 5 days tells me they knew she was the only applicant and wanted to shorten the process.
Talk about an assumption
Nah, no way you post a job like that and after 5 days you get one request. There are more articles that support that but I'm not sure if it will make a difference to you.
Either way, much different than Wimp which was the original point.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 3:50 pm to Irons Puppet
Actually here is another article from a local news station 
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The process for hiring Jessica Dorrell to the University of Arkansas football staff unfolded over the course of less than a month, and documents obtained from the athletic department outline the resume materials of nearly 160 applicants.
Dorrell was one of three finalists interviewed for the position of student-athlete development coordinator, and was eventually hired at the endorsement of former head coach Bobby Petrino.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:32 pm to rockiee
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Actually here is another article from a local news station
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The process for hiring Jessica Dorrell to the University of Arkansas football staff unfolded over the course of less than a month, and documents obtained from the athletic department outline the resume materials of nearly 160 applicants.
Dorrell was one of three finalists interviewed for the position of student-athlete development coordinator, and was eventually hired at the endorsement of former head coach Bobby Petrino.
HR eliminated 157 applicants. I laugh at the word finalist. I would love seeing the other two applicants resume. Again, HR has the final decision on a hire and my guess is they knew what was going on with Bobby. Unless you are convinced the other 159 applicants were far inferior than Dorrell, the fix was in.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 4:42 pm to Irons Puppet
I don't blame people for not knowing about all of this because there really isn't a need to unless you are a fan of the school but it seems like every so often a poster has no idea of the reasons he was let go. Its much deeper than some standard affair.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:00 pm to rockiee
It seems Puppet is pissed at being saddled with Gus and Chad.
The University was facing possible law suits over this crap and Petrino didn't fight this either.
It happened and it sucked.
The hirings after Petrino is what got us at this point.
I feel good about Sam,he knows what SEC talent looks like.
The University was facing possible law suits over this crap and Petrino didn't fight this either.
It happened and it sucked.
The hirings after Petrino is what got us at this point.
I feel good about Sam,he knows what SEC talent looks like.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:10 pm to SpartyGator
He left because he knew that 2008 was going to be a down year after the best backfield in the nation would be gone to the draft. He was going to be fired in 2008. He failed to win an SEC title and would not survive. The rumors were that he was looking for jobs as early as Jan 2007 but was turned down.
He got in contact with Ole Miss in August and accepted the job before the LSU game. I know this because my friend is a GM for a CFL team and is one of his best friends.
He got in contact with Ole Miss in August and accepted the job before the LSU game. I know this because my friend is a GM for a CFL team and is one of his best friends.
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