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re: This is how stupid our fan base got during the Chad Morris era
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:32 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:32 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Harry Rex Vonner,
What beer are you on? I’m on 20+
What beer are you on? I’m on 20+
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Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:46 pm to wartiger2004
Houston Nutt became the first head coach to survive back to back losing seasons since before Frank Broyles. He was given a two year pass , so he was given immunity that previous coaches never had.
But entering the 2006 season, Nutt was under a lot of pressure. So when national player of the year Mitch Mustain was still looking, the so called powers strongly suggest that Nutt hire Gus on his staff. Nutt didn't want to but had to if he wanted to keep his job.
Mustain wanted to go to Arkansas but he was concerned a bout the offense and wanted to play in an offense that he was used to in high school. Nutt eventually got Gus on staff and Mustain committed with the rest of the Springdale bunch.
Nutt was very insecure of his job and saw Gus as someone who could replace him. So he made Mustain as miserable as he could be and when Nutt won enough games that Gus was no longer a threat then he pulled him after one series against South Carolina. Mustain would never start again after going 8-0 as a starter. Eventually Gus left for Tulsa and Mustain transferred to USC after being tired of the harassment and scorn from the fans.
But entering the 2006 season, Nutt was under a lot of pressure. So when national player of the year Mitch Mustain was still looking, the so called powers strongly suggest that Nutt hire Gus on his staff. Nutt didn't want to but had to if he wanted to keep his job.
Mustain wanted to go to Arkansas but he was concerned a bout the offense and wanted to play in an offense that he was used to in high school. Nutt eventually got Gus on staff and Mustain committed with the rest of the Springdale bunch.
Nutt was very insecure of his job and saw Gus as someone who could replace him. So he made Mustain as miserable as he could be and when Nutt won enough games that Gus was no longer a threat then he pulled him after one series against South Carolina. Mustain would never start again after going 8-0 as a starter. Eventually Gus left for Tulsa and Mustain transferred to USC after being tired of the harassment and scorn from the fans.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 5:52 pm to rockiee
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I don't blame people for not knowing about all of this because there really isn't a need to unless you are a fan of the school but it seems like every so often a poster has no idea of the reasons he was let go. Its much deeper than some standard affair.
Nobody is arguing that there was more to it. What I am saying is the AD knew the issues and might have been complicit, but regardless they could have slapped his wrist and saved the program. Instead the took the "moral high ground" (perceived) and now the program has been burnt to the ground. Schools should just take the hit and keep the know commodity, instead of looking for the next great coach. It would save them a lot of money. AU should have done the same thing with Dye.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:05 pm to Irons Puppet
I would put anything past Jeff Long and shady business. I'm sure he knew all along but didn't do anything unless he had to.
This is the same AD that at Kansas had Snoop Dog and stripper poles on a basketball court. Then they had someone shoot fake money into the crowd. Long was under a lot of scrutiny and blamed it on Snoop Dog. But Snoop Dog fired back and said it was his idea from the start.
This is the same AD that at Kansas had Snoop Dog and stripper poles on a basketball court. Then they had someone shoot fake money into the crowd. Long was under a lot of scrutiny and blamed it on Snoop Dog. But Snoop Dog fired back and said it was his idea from the start.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:07 pm to Irons Puppet
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Nobody is arguing that there was more to it.
We started with you believing this wasn't different than the wimp situation. Then with you not believing there was a job posted. Then we moved on to you only believing one person applied.
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Instead the took the "moral high ground" (perceived) and now the program has been burnt to the ground.
Here is the flaw in your thought process, the program didn't get burnt to the ground because they fired him. The program has been burnt to the ground because of poor decisions after his firing. The current state of the program does not justify keeping Petrino.
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Schools should just take the hit
In some cases yes but not in Arkansas' case. Some hits are just too big legally and from a perception standpoint.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:08 pm to dchog
I think Nutt left because internet dumbasses were flying banners,his family was being attacked and any hope of bringing this program together in a positive manner was not going to happen.
Hell,they turned on Frank Broyles too.
Look at that shite site hogville for all you want to know.
They got what they wanted,and here we are.
Every fanbase should take a lesson from this crap.
Hell,they turned on Frank Broyles too.
Look at that shite site hogville for all you want to know.
They got what they wanted,and here we are.
Every fanbase should take a lesson from this crap.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:10 pm to Clark14
Wasn’t there something to do with a freedom of information request also or am i misremembering?
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:19 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Don’t worry. It can still get worse.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:33 pm to wartiger2004
Yes Nutt was FOI. I don't remember why it was done. But it revealed that Nutt had an alleged affair with news anchor Donna Bragg. He texted her seconds before the team was to run on the field against Wisconsin in the bowl game.
I think other investigations were involved with a harassing email that was titled dear Mr. Interception King sent to Mustain. This email was forward from his brother Danny Nutt and other friends that were laughing a bout it.
Also the infamous code red that was used by players on defense who surrounded Mustain in the locker room. No one knew who called it but it was rumored that Nutt was behind it.
This spilled over into the 2007 season.
I think other investigations were involved with a harassing email that was titled dear Mr. Interception King sent to Mustain. This email was forward from his brother Danny Nutt and other friends that were laughing a bout it.
Also the infamous code red that was used by players on defense who surrounded Mustain in the locker room. No one knew who called it but it was rumored that Nutt was behind it.
This spilled over into the 2007 season.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:38 pm to wartiger2004
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Wasn’t there something to do with a freedom of information request also or am i misremembering?
Hell yeah. They got his cell phone records and uncovered texts and calls with a female news anchor.
Make no mistake...there is a wing of the Arkansas fan base that is bat shite crazy. When things started deteriorating with Nutt, they went all in on him. Nutt's escape to Ole Miss was one of the greatest Houdini acts of all time and it didn't take too long for the Rebs to have buyer's remorse.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:40 pm to Drebin
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there is a wing of the Arkansas fan base that is bat shite crazy
This is the case in most fan bases but there is a little extra added element because the whole state belongs to the Hogs. No other big school to rival them and no pro teams help to create a little more passion
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:42 pm to dchog
That’s right, man I just remember sitting in Jordan Hare stadium and watching Darren and Felix run slap over our defense. Hell I think they’re still running.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 6:55 pm to rockiee
They were crazy no doubt but Nutt is an instigator and an enabler.
It started going sour for him after a disappointing 2003 season. Then he was flirting with Nebraska and supposedly LSU later on. He was given a two year pass. Then he had , "I called that play" moment after the Ole Miss game that many fans believed it was directed at them when Nutt was heavily criticized for his play calling.
It started going sour for him after a disappointing 2003 season. Then he was flirting with Nebraska and supposedly LSU later on. He was given a two year pass. Then he had , "I called that play" moment after the Ole Miss game that many fans believed it was directed at them when Nutt was heavily criticized for his play calling.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:09 pm to jb4
quote:Who hired the AD?
Not as stupid as the AD who hired chad
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:15 pm to dchog
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Hunter Yurachek was hired a few days after Chad. I guess the powers put all the eggs in the basket with Gus and he played them like they the fools they are. I didn't like Gus and don't understand the fascination.
We wasted a lot of time with Gus when should used that time for someone that wanted the job. Instead it went from Gus to a guy that had a losing record at SMU.
Should have waited until Hunter Yurachek was hired as AD before hiring a sure must needed homerun hired HC!
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:29 pm to dchog
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From what I understand the AD search takes longer than a coaching search. So if they wanted to fire long then it should have been before the season started. Fans said that he was fired because he wasn't going to fire Bert but I believe it is more in-depth than that. Rumors have spread that it had something to do with the finances.
JCP was just a puppet and Bert wasn't fired on the field but was led to a small room in the stadium. Then he was given the pink slip.
Gus recommended Chad Morris as well. But if we were going the G5 route then I would have picked Sonny Dykes.
That search wasn't as bleak as our last one. We still had better candidates than Chad but the hire was like they just didn't put in the effort or care
There were no boosters to verify this was accepted? That is why you need one other person to verify it and that failed. I would never hired Chad Morris! You kidding me?! Chad Morris with a losing record at a lower level and was still not yet leading the division and be one of the top program in that league.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:34 pm to TrueLefty
I do feel bad for mustain in all this. He was used as a pawn between power brokers and really deserved better.
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:47 pm to rockiee
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Nobody is arguing that there was more to it.
We started with you believing this wasn't different than the wimp situation. Then with you not believing there was a job posted. Then we moved on to you only believing one person applied.
This is exactly like Wimp Sanderson. They also knew what was going on and just slapped his wrist at first. It took a lawsuit and having it go public to finally fire him.
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Instead the took the "moral high ground" (perceived) and now the program has been burnt to the ground.
Here is the flaw in your thought process, the program didn't get burnt to the ground because they fired him. The program has been burnt to the ground because of poor decisions after his firing. The current state of the program does not justify keeping Petrino.
That is how a program usually gets burnt to the ground. If they hadn't fired him, then they wouldn't have made bad decisions trying to replace him.
I would like to see a poll of UA fans and ask them if they wished they would have kept Petrino. I think you are the exception. quote:
Schools should just take the hit
In some cases yes but not in Arkansas' case. Some hits are just too big legally and from a perception standpoint.
What could have been any different from a legal standpoint if they kept him ? It was all about the perception, the problem is the perception of losing is much worse and more expensive.
This post was edited on 7/15/20 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/20 at 7:57 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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Wimp was fricking his Secretary, how is that different?
Who hasn't fricked their secretary?
Edit: sorry young guys, DO NOT follow this path - it's wrong
Bill Clinton did it while he was President of the United States of America and he is from Arkansas!
Posted on 7/15/20 at 8:14 pm to Clark14
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It seems Puppet is pissed at being saddled with Gus and Chad.
The University was facing possible law suits over this crap and Petrino didn't fight this either.
It happened and it sucked.
The hirings after Petrino is what got us at this point.
I feel good about Sam,he knows what SEC talent looks like.
But he hasn't got the SEC talents on his team and still struggling to get more SEC talents from recruiting! Something is needed to change ASAP to be competitive in the SEC.
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