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re: The SEC Rant couldn't wait for LSU to lose a game

Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:40 am to
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Of course this is based on end of season rankings.


Sure, pick whichever rankings work for you, as opposed to how the majority of college football fans view things.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:48 am to
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Of course this is based on end of season rankings.

You know how this goes. If it's an unranked loss it matters when the game was played. If it's a top 10 win it only counts if it's the end of season ranking.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:49 am to
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Sure, pick whichever rankings work for you, as opposed to how the majority of college football fans view things.


I didnt pick that, its just how most historic results are listed.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:53 am to
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If it's a top 10 win it only counts if it's the end of season ranking.


Weird, the official LSU Football twitter account decided to count rankings at the time the games were played.

Did LSU beat seven teams that were in the top 10 at the end of the season?

LINK
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 8:57 am to
I was talking about how people on this board view it, myself included. No one gives LSU credit for 7 top 10 wins on this board outside of some LSU fans. But, if State ends up being ranked, it will still be viewed as a loss to an unranked team. That's just how this board is in wanting any way to shite talk other programs. It isn't limited to LSU. For the record, I 100% disagree with LSU Twitter on this one.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 8:59 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:05 am to
Its skewed either way.

End of season rankings should be used but at the same time, Texas probably was a top 10 team when we played them and they didnt finish that way. Oklahoma sure wasnt a top 5 team even though they likely were for most of the regular season.

Many people dont seem to understand that most teams ebb and flow due to injuries, confidence, and preparation.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:07 am to
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For the record, I 100% disagree with LSU Twitter on this one.


I think it's very difficult to determine which take is better. Rankings can fluctuate throughout the season for a variety of reasons.

For example, I think LSU's victory over a #3 Alabama (with Tua) is more impressive than Auburn's victory over a #5 Alabama (with Mac). I don't think you can say those victories should be considered equal over a #8 Alabama, just because that's Alabama's final ranking.

ETA: Ha, exactly what I was getting at SidewalkTiger
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:08 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:09 am to
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For example, I think LSU's victory over a #3 Alabama (with Tua) is more impressive than Auburn's victory over a #5 Alabama (with Mac). I don't think you can say those victories should be considered equal over a #8 Alabama, just because that's Alabama's final ranking.



Alabama was a top 5 team with Tua, only top 10 with Mac.

If Tua doesnt get injured, Alabama likely beats Auburn and possibly gets a playoff berth.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53546 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:20 am to
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LSU was without 17 starters from last year
Stingley didn't play




State returned 4 starters on Offense and 5 on defense. That equals 9. You do math right? 22-9= 13.

LSU lost 4 more starters than MSU. Here is the difference: (warning READ IT SLOWLY)
I will underline it for you too.

LSU recruited more 4 star and 5 star players last year than MSU has on their ENTIRE team.


When you add up the last 3 classes, LSU has 43 4 and or 5 stars on their team. That's 30 more than ALL of MSU's Roster.


AND STATE played a WALK ON!


That you are making excuses is... well.... pathetic.

Posted by SpartyGator
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:23 am to
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CatsGoneWild


What does this have to do with Ohio State?
Posted by Capstone2017
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:26 am to
It was 8 years and 9 games.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:29 am to
Give LSU credit for ripping the band aid off quickly. We tried to slowly take it off by eeking by Utah State first.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:31 am to
So this is where I parked my car
Posted by HotRock
Starkville,MS
Member since Aug 2018
513 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:32 am to
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The SEC Rant couldn't wait for LSU to lose a game
I think he can have success but I dont think a team can be elite being one dimensional.


What is one dimensional? To Leech its about balance of space more so than balance of run pass.

If you run it ten times up the middle and throw it ten tims to the same WR .. that ain't balance

Balance is make a defense defend the full 160ft width of a field and as deep as he can depending on QB protection.

He does it by spreading you out and spreading the ball around. He hopes to get his best players the ball in space to allow them to make plays.

This idea that you have to run it so many times a game and pass it so many times a game to get balance is not his way of looking at things. You know what? I think he may be right. He just needs the players to do it with.

Can Mississippi State provide him with enough talent to do it week in and week out? I don't know, we shall see.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26999 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:35 am to
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Tourney Wins:

Will Wade 1
Avery Johnson 1


Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.

I mean, that's on a "Mike Dubose has won the SEC since Tennessee" level.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53485 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:40 am to
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When you add up the last 3 classes, LSU has 43 4 and or 5 stars on their team. That's 30 more than ALL of MSU's Roster.


I'm not disagreeing with your premise but you obviously included players who have transferred or moved on to the NFL so not technically "on the team."

Its also worth pointing out that LSU is relying heavily on its 2018 recruiting class right now which was much closer to State than it was to Clemson or Georgia.

The talent gap on the field Saturday obviously favored LSU but it wasnt as massive as everyone keeps trying to make it out to be.
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:50 am to
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LSU was without 17 starters from last year


Totally understandable, but that's what recruiting is for. And you recruit 4 and 5 stars which should be enough talent not to give up over 600 yards of passing.

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Stingley didn't play



True, but State receivers were also beating you on go routes. That has nothing to do with Stingley.

quote:

No home field advantage with few fans


Along with the rest of the country

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Barely had normal practice



See above

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Brennan hasn't started a game in 4 years



Yes, but Brennan doesn't play defense

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So yes, LSU was rusty. They will finish the rest of their schedule 8-1.



They won't. They will lose 2-3 more games.

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Let's not forget, UGA lost to south Carolina and got throttled by lsu last year and Bama lost to LSU and Auburn. Losses happen. This past Saturday was pretty much a scrimmage. Even Oklahoma lost (which is much worse since it was game 2 or 3 for them)



Can we just stop with the excuses? Mississippi State straight up beat you. Period. It's part of the game.
Posted by BossBailey345
Member since Nov 2019
2282 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:51 am to
More signs of insecure U
Posted by Cajunese
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
6983 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 9:56 am to
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Tourney Wins:

Will Wade 1
Avery Johnson 1


Technically, Will Wade has 0 wins. He was suspended for that game.
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