re: The problem with Florida and Kiffin… money.

People on this message board are stupid on a historic level.

Also here’s this from Rece Davis.

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"I'm going to say this that's going to throw some cold water on Florida and probably help Lane, as I said earlier, you can't ignore the obvious," Davis said this week on The College GameDay podcast. "You can't ignore the obvious and pretend they won't go after Lane Kiffin. As we stand here now, Lane Kiffin has a better job right now. He's at best, making a literal move. And it's not because Ole Miss is better than Florida right now. It's because they can get in on players now. They're aligned with their NIL. He makes the decisions. Lane has a better job."

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The guy I was replying to said we hadn't done anything since Urban. I was just saying we have done something 3 times since Urban that you guys have never done.

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Had Ole Miss played in the East, we would have been multiple times

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Kiffin has proven over the last 4 years he can sustain it. What more does he need to do to prove it to you?

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Does Kiffin have the same talent on his roster that's on Kirby's roster?

Sark's roster?

Day's roster?

Deboer's roster?


short answer... no.

long answer... no. those teams are built on NUMEROUS 5* recruits that came out of high school. you can't get the same talent in the portal that you can get from high school. you just can't.

how many former 5*s are in the portal? how many did Kiffin get? that's not a dig at Kiffin. that's just reality. the portal is a bunch of former low 4*s or less that didn't make the cut at their former stop. there will be a few gems in the portal, but not all of them are lining up to go to Ole Miss or Florida for that matter.




let's just take a look at the Talent Composite over at 247:

1
Alabama
82 Commits
93.79 Avg. Player
1,018.28 Total Points
2
Georgia
85 Commits
92.85 Avg. Player
1,008.21 Total Points
3
Ohio State
81 Commits
93.29 Avg. Player
998.62 Total Points
4
Texas
81 Commits Total Points
91.98 Avg. Player
953.95 Total Points
5
Clemson
82 Commits
90.89 Avg. Player
924.63 Total Points
6
Oregon
85 Commits
90.42 Avg. Player
916.71 Total Points
7
Texas A&M
80 Commits
90.44 Avg. Player
905.25 Total Points
7
Oklahoma
85 Commits
90.07 Avg. Player
906.61 Total Points
9
LSU
79 Commits
90.86 Avg. Player
906.19 Total Points
10
Notre Dame
83 Commits
91.14 Avg. Player
905.52 Total Points
11
Penn State
85 Commits
90.67 Avg. Player Total Points
895.42
12
Florida
85 Commits
90.09 Avg. Player
894.24 Total Points
13
Florida State
85 Commits Total Points
89.63 Avg. Player
879.48 Total Points
14
Miami
82 Commits
89.65 Avg. Player
868.15 Total Points
15
USC
79 Commits
89.91 Avg. Player
863.09 Total Points
16
Michigan
85 Commits
89.96 Avg. Player
859.21 Total Points
17
Tennessee
84 Commits
89.54 Avg. Player
858.67 Total Points
18
Auburn
81 Commits
89.30 Avg. Player
833.61 Total Points
19
Missouri
79 Commits
88.68 Avg. Player
807.36 Total Points
20
Ole Miss
75 Commits
88.84 Avg. Player
801.66 Total Points
21
South Carolina
80 Commits
88.32 Avg. Player
798.18 Total Points
22
North Carolina
79 Commits
88.78 Avg. Player
794.99 Total Points
23
Nebraska
85 Commits
87.93 Avg. Player
790.42 Total Points
24
Kentucky
79 Commits
88.63 Avg. Player
788.36 Total Points
25
SMU
77 Commits
88.36 Avg. Player
788.22 Total Points


talk to us about your roster when you're above a 90 avg. player.

There is a loophole that allows for 6 year extensions.

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those teams are built on NUMEROUS 5* recruits that came out of high school. you can't get the same talent in the portal that you can get from high school. you just can't.

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Cool. Are you saying our program is now comparable to Bama and UGA?

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Cool. Are you saying our program is now comparable to Bama and UGA?

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you're trolling right?

Alabama: (17) 5*
Georgia: (14) 5*
OSU: (14) 5*
Texas: (11) 5*


Ole Miss: (2) 5*


Ole Miss isn't even in the same universe as those 4 schools.

Let’s back this up a bit so you understand my point.

You’re comparing our recruiting to that of Bama, UGA, Texas, and OSU.

My point is that our program is not that of Bama, UGA, Texas, or OSU.

So we have to get creative with our rosters so that we can try and compete with Bama, UGA, Texas, and OSU.


So yes…..no shite we aren’t recruiting on their level. Neither is Florida.

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I think Florida is a better job when you consider the ability to have consistent long term success.

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This is still a huge unknown in the current NIL/ Transfer Portal era of college football. Ole Miss has proven they can handle this environment and be way above its average of previous eras. People saying Florida will automatically be able to handle this new era and get to Spurrier/Meyer levels are guessing and assuming. It is still an unknown.

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So we have to get creative with our rosters so that we can try and compete with Bama, UGA, Texas, and OSU.

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that's the problem. you're not even doing that.

yeah, you're getting the top-rated recruits out of the portal, but those players don't even grade at the same level as the 5*/4* players those kids are getting out of HS.


how do you expect to be on the same level as Georiga and Bama when you're entire team doesn't have the same caliber players across the board? that's the whole point of the "Talent Composite". it takes into account your entire team.

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So yes…..no shite we aren’t recruiting on their level. Neither is Florida.

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but Florida does have a better "Talent Composition" than Ole Miss. the difference that you don't want to admit is that the reason Florida isn't winning, as compared to Ole Miss, is because of coaching. the talent to win is there. the coaching isn't.