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The primary issue with the Air Raid and Mike Leach is...
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:31 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:31 am
Leach doesn't incorporate more of a running game. Many of his disciples have evolved and utilize the run to better balance their offenses.
Against LSU his QB attempted 62 passes, while the RB's had a total of 26 carries. I like Mike Leach, and think he's fun to have in the SEC, but in order to last he's going to need better balance in his play calling on offense.
Against LSU his QB attempted 62 passes, while the RB's had a total of 26 carries. I like Mike Leach, and think he's fun to have in the SEC, but in order to last he's going to need better balance in his play calling on offense.
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Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:34 am to boudinman
He needs to utilize the run to make teams adjust to stop it and then go right back to air raid. But he doesn’t and I don’t get it. When we committed to stopping their run, it opened up the bigger passes.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:35 am to boudinman
At this point these offense names are just names. Just the same as Briles offense. You gotta establish both to be successful with the offense you are running.
His system is just heavily focused on the air raid when it’s available and working.
His system is just heavily focused on the air raid when it’s available and working.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:36 am to boudinman
We literally were daring him to run it with 3 man lines and our 2 linebackers 5-6-7 yards off the LOS, and he simply refused to do it much at all, despite seeing that alignment on like 80% of the plays.
Leach has to adjust, I dont care how much you want to throw it, if you're picking up an easy 5+ yards against a super light box you continue to run the ball and force a change in the defense.
Leach has to adjust, I dont care how much you want to throw it, if you're picking up an easy 5+ yards against a super light box you continue to run the ball and force a change in the defense.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:36 am to boudinman
I think LSU could have rushed zero and dropped eleven men back into coverage and Leach would have continued to try and throw the ball. His offense is successful in making the defense shift to react to it, but then he does nothing to take advantage of that fact.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:39 am to boudinman
His ego has got to be off the charts because I don’t think he’s stupid. Doing his thing in the SEC, no offense State but with a lower tier recruiting school comparatively, isn’t gonna fly against the 4 and 5 star defenders who mostly come here to participate in some of the best defensive schemes in college football.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:39 am to boudinman
The way to beat Leach is to bend, but not break.
He is going to move the ball.. the short passes basically function as a run.. If you can get some stops and hold them to FGs, then you will have success.
PK @ Washington never gave up more than 17 points vs Leach at WASU. If you want to know how to stop the Air Raid.. watch that film.
He is going to move the ball.. the short passes basically function as a run.. If you can get some stops and hold them to FGs, then you will have success.
PK @ Washington never gave up more than 17 points vs Leach at WASU. If you want to know how to stop the Air Raid.. watch that film.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:40 am to thunderbird1100
Here are the runs his RBs were having outside the goal line situations:
1 and 10 at MSU43 Marks,Joquavious rush for 14 yards gain to the LSU43 (McGlothern,Dwight Gaye,Ali), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 5 at LSU38 Marks,Joquavious rush for 1 yard gain to the LSU37 (Baskerville,Micah).
1 and 10 at MSU25 Marks,Joquavious rush for 5 yards gain to the MSU30 (Clark,Damone Burns,Major).
2 and 5 at MSU30 Marks,Joquavious rush for 6 yards gain to the MSU36 (Lewis,Cameron), 1ST DOWN.
1 and 5 at LSU44 Johnson,Dillon rush for 4 yards gain to the LSU40 (McGlothern,Dwight).
2 and 1 at LSU40 Johnson,Dillon rush for 10 yards gain to the LSU30 (Smith,Maason), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 1 at LSU13 Marks,Joquavious rush for 0 yards to the LSU13 (Farrell Jr.,Neil Clark,Damone).
3 and 1 at LSU13 Marks,Joquavious rush for 3 yards gain to the LSU10 (Gaye,Ali), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 3 at MSU27 Johnson,Dillon rush for 3 yards gain to the MSU30 (Gaye,Ali Jones Jr.,Mike), 1ST DOWN.
That was just the first half.
The 0 yard rush and 3 yard rush on 2nd/1 3rd/1 did come with a 4 man line I remember, but I believe the rest of those runs came against our 3 man line with only 2 linebackers.
1 and 10 at MSU43 Marks,Joquavious rush for 14 yards gain to the LSU43 (McGlothern,Dwight Gaye,Ali), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 5 at LSU38 Marks,Joquavious rush for 1 yard gain to the LSU37 (Baskerville,Micah).
1 and 10 at MSU25 Marks,Joquavious rush for 5 yards gain to the MSU30 (Clark,Damone Burns,Major).
2 and 5 at MSU30 Marks,Joquavious rush for 6 yards gain to the MSU36 (Lewis,Cameron), 1ST DOWN.
1 and 5 at LSU44 Johnson,Dillon rush for 4 yards gain to the LSU40 (McGlothern,Dwight).
2 and 1 at LSU40 Johnson,Dillon rush for 10 yards gain to the LSU30 (Smith,Maason), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 1 at LSU13 Marks,Joquavious rush for 0 yards to the LSU13 (Farrell Jr.,Neil Clark,Damone).
3 and 1 at LSU13 Marks,Joquavious rush for 3 yards gain to the LSU10 (Gaye,Ali), 1ST DOWN.
2 and 3 at MSU27 Johnson,Dillon rush for 3 yards gain to the MSU30 (Gaye,Ali Jones Jr.,Mike), 1ST DOWN.
That was just the first half.
The 0 yard rush and 3 yard rush on 2nd/1 3rd/1 did come with a 4 man line I remember, but I believe the rest of those runs came against our 3 man line with only 2 linebackers.
This post was edited on 9/27/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:43 am to thunderbird1100
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We literally were daring him to run it with 3 man lines and our 2 linebackers 5-6-7 yards off the LOS, and he simply refused to do it much at all, despite seeing that alignment on like 80% of the plays.
We consistent had only 4-5 men in the box. We consistent gave up 4+ yards on runs from that formation. I doubt there was a single negative play when were aligned like that and they ran. However when we went 4 down linemen and the lb’s played the run, we stuffed them, but then the air raid pass was wide open.
I know I’m not as smart as leach, and I know he knows more football, but that was a frustrating adherence to dogma, even as an opposing fan.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:43 am to thunderbird1100
Somehow even with 60+ passes we don’t surprise people with our runs. Must be a personnel issue where opposing teams know.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 8:44 am to MsState of mind
With that being said we are running more this year than last year
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:10 am to MsState of mind
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Somehow even with 60+ passes we don’t surprise people with our runs. Must be a personnel issue where opposing teams know.
I think they are tipping their hand with the OL but I haven’t watched enough of your games to say for sure.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:12 am to boudinman
His idea that short passes are runs is very flawed. Even the best receivers drop passes. Have you ever tried to come out of the backfield to catch a pass on a short flat? The ball has to be put in your hands else it's an adventure unless you're Najee Harris.
The run even if it doesn't gain yards is runoff from the clock. Even in football, time is the most precious commodity when you're trying to stay alive. The best teams make sure you don't have any of it left at the end.
The run even if it doesn't gain yards is runoff from the clock. Even in football, time is the most precious commodity when you're trying to stay alive. The best teams make sure you don't have any of it left at the end.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:13 am to boudinman
Fun and gun gimmick offenses work for a while. It’s entertaining. But you have to still do the fundamentals, ball control and have a defense. Put your defense back on the field every three minutes and you will lose.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:31 am to td01241
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, isn’t gonna fly against the 4 and 5 star defenders
Guy has people open on every play. Ya'll are seriously spouting lines that just are not true..
Second, Leach has 4 stars all over the skill positions.
The issue at running the ball is the same as the QB and down field. Lack of experience because they are young. all 3 are SO.
They should have had 150-175 on the ground. Young guys just not seeing the holes and not hitting them hard as fast when they do.
That will change over time.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:34 am to boudinman
The main issue right now is a QB who literally dumps it off every pass and can’t connect on passes over 15 yards cause his arm is a noodle. I’d love to run more too and I bet Mike will once our QB can be more vertical. The dump passes might as well be considered runs at this point.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:42 am to boudinman
The primary issue that other fans don't know is every skill player is a TRUE Sophomore. They started as True FR. Rogers, both backs, and Walley.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:48 am to thunderbird1100
You can post that, but the truth is Jo'quavious Marks 13 46 3.5
3.5 yards per carry.
Which brings me back to the inconsistencies of Sophomore players.
Once they get experience, they will be hard to stop. I'm not saying they can't be, but Leach is not going to be blown off the field in the SEC just because some of you think he can't run or won't run the ball.
Now add to that RB his passing stats that are an extension of the run game:
Jo'quavious Marks 9 67 7.4 7.4 yards per catch.
3.5 yards per carry.
Which brings me back to the inconsistencies of Sophomore players.
Once they get experience, they will be hard to stop. I'm not saying they can't be, but Leach is not going to be blown off the field in the SEC just because some of you think he can't run or won't run the ball.
Now add to that RB his passing stats that are an extension of the run game:
Jo'quavious Marks 9 67 7.4 7.4 yards per catch.
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:50 am to RickDorf
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His idea that short passes are runs is very flawed.
Really? The RB averaged 7.4 yards per catch while averaging 3.5 rushing.
The 2nd back averaged 6.4 per carry while averaging 6.4 in catches.
Seems Leach knows way more than you do about his system
Posted on 9/27/21 at 9:52 am to KingOfTheWorld
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Put your defense back on the field every three minutes and you will lose
When has MSU done that under Leach? They had the ball 10 minutes longer than LSU.
Another person knowing nothing about the system they are criticizing. Glad Saban is not some of our fans.
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