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re: The NCAA has removed all SAT and ACT scores as part of athlete's eligibility requirements
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:56 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:56 am to RD Dawg
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No they aren't especially when other factors (GPA) are combined with it.
They only account for like 15% of variability. That’s pretty bad. Lol
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:01 am
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:58 am to meansonny
quote:it has nothing to do with the university. The tests have poor predictive validity for college academic performance.
At real universities? Lol. Ummm. No.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:03 am to JetDawg
Extremely bad decision
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:06 am to JayAg
Murfreesboro Tennessee a 73 is failing. Or at least it was in 2015. I’m sure it has changed but not sure. In 2015 in Murfreesboro you needed at least a 75+ to pass.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:06 am to meansonny
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At diploma mills... sure.
At real universities? Lol. Ummm. No.
It is sad how many universities and colleges just want the tuition. Rigor is about 100th on the list of priorities.
Schools will still set standards for students getting in and pursuing a degree. Graduation rates are tied to funding.
You don't have to have a standardized test score for that (especially ones that suck in the validity department).
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:08 am to RD Dawg
Not sure what you are laughing about 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:11 am to JetDawg
I'm starting to wonder if the NFL isn't slipping money under the table to the NCAA to soften their requirements in order for the NFL to keep their "farm" system solvent with better athletes.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:13 am to LSU Patrick
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They only account for like 15% of variability. That’s pretty bad. Lol
Link??
Are you really trying to tell me GPA's in a poor rural high school is exactly the same as GPA at exclusive private HS?
Of course not and absurd not to have some type of national standard for college applicants and GTFO with the "cultural bias" argument.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:16 am to LSU Patrick
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To be honest, those tests are very poor predictors of academic performance.
And also tbh, schools pass athletes regardless of GPA
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:17 am to VolNavy98
When I was in HS, we were on a 5 point scale. So a 4.4 GPA was a 94. So anything in the 3.0 to 3.9 is a B. A 2.3 would be a C or 73 average.
Is everyone on a 5 point scale? No kid with a 2.3 would get into any of our schools. They will make exceptions for football? Am I misinterpreting this?
Is everyone on a 5 point scale? No kid with a 2.3 would get into any of our schools. They will make exceptions for football? Am I misinterpreting this?
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:20 am to JetDawg
The death spiral of college football began in 1980 and the advent of ESPN. They brought in all that tv revenue colleges wanted. Until then few games were on tv. To get on ESPN and get the money you had to win. So, many colleges reduced the entrance requirements for these kids. Example-Until 1980 Alabama was 0-5 against Notre Dame. Schools like Alabama reduced entrance requirements and schools like Notre Dame, Georgia Tech hold the line. Result Notre Dame since 1980 has trouble staying on the field with the likes of Alabama. That’s it. Now the game is a total disaster.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:37 am to LSU Patrick
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To be honest, those tests are very poor predictors of academic performance.
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LSU Patrick
^^^ Did not score well on ACT/SAT ^^^
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:38 am to JetDawg
Those postgame interviews are going to be lit 
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:39 am to JetDawg
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The dumbing down of America continues (sort of reminds one of what's happening here on tRant).
Sad.
So very sad.
Agree.
They should make them qualify with all the other students.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:39 am to LSU Patrick
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those tests are very poor predictors of athletic performance.
FIFY
Ain't nobody come here to play school!
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:39 am to JetDawg
Ok- I originally misread the op. Still a little pathetic but not as bad as I thought.
Still a little pathetic but not as bad as I thought. This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:50 am to LSU Patrick
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To be honest, those tests are very poor predictors of academic performance.
This is true. And its veneer is thin even for actual students. But this is certainly another nail in a coffin of some kind somewhere.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Schools will still set standards for students getting in and pursuing a degree.
Umm. Yeah. What's your point?
They will base it on GPA where entire school systems in the state are built around passing kids along because it is easier to deal with happy parents when there is not rigor in k-12.
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Graduation rates are tied to funding
I don't see you making any point in your favor. My exact point is that kids are graduating (high school and college) without the rigor that was in schools 50 years ago.
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You don't have to have a standardized test score for that (especially ones that suck in the validity department).
I agree. Universities that only care about tuition and fees are better served not looking at standardized tests because they expose inconvenient truths.
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:09 pm to JetDawg
Is this the part where I'm supposed to fake outrage about STUDENT athletes? Like anyone heres checking ACT scores after a special teams touchdown 
Julius Peppers still can't read at a 5th grade level. Any pretense of Academic requirements for sports should have gone out the window with that North Carolina case.
Julius Peppers still can't read at a 5th grade level. Any pretense of Academic requirements for sports should have gone out the window with that North Carolina case.
This post was edited on 1/27/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/27/23 at 12:10 pm to JayAg
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Is a 2.3 a C? A 73 average? Wow
I graduated college with a 2.13. Cs get degrees, my friend. I did get a 4.0 when I went back for my accounting degree. /flex
Obviously, anyone with a pulse should be able to maintain a 2.3 in HS.
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