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re: The Most Valid Criticism of DeBoer

Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20811 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:56 pm to
Every single post of yours has been about how bad Alabama is. Every single one. Players, scheme, Deboer, even Saban. All trash according to you. Be more subtle with your next new Alabama alter.
Posted by UAClassOf22
Member since Dec 2025
28 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 3:58 pm to
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It’s DeBoer’s fault for not addressing the glaring issues with the OL and RBs that was obvious last season. He did NOTHING to fix the problem.
HS recruiting and portal acquisitions on both LOS is not up to snuff.

DeBoer's/Grubb's offense isn't about running the ball - it never has been. It's about a high octane downfield passing attack. He would've NEVER recruited Ty Simpson or Milroe because his offense requires a gunslinger with a cannon for an arm.

Ty Simpson is a gimpy armed, anxious game manager.
Milroe was a RB playing QB.

The prototypical QB for DeBoer would be Jayden Daniels or Trevor Lawrence. He likes tall QBs who can flick their wrist and throw it 40 yards on a rope.
Posted by UAClassOf22
Member since Dec 2025
28 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Every single post of yours has been about how bad Alabama is.

We just got blown out in 2 of our last 3 games, and were getting blown out by Oklahoma until we caught lightning in a bottle.

I'm actually not that down on Alabama. I believe in DeBoer, but he needs to stop being Mr. Nice Guy and use that portal for every damn position that isn't up to snuff.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:02 pm to
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Bryce Young had a shite offensive line and won the Heisman.


You 're leaving one "minor" item out. The offensive line Bryce Young had wasn't as bad as the 2025 Oline. Bryce Young had a 1,300 yard running back who averaged basially 100 yards per game rushing with 14 rushing td's. 2025 Alabama's leading rusher had 504 yards for the year. Tell me how that doesn't make a huge difference when one QB had a running game that produced a 1,300 yard rusher and 14 td's and the other produced a 500 yard rusher with less than 5 rushing TD's. Help me on that...

Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10364 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:04 pm to
The OP is legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here, or anywhere else for that matter.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
38825 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:10 pm to
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This is the biggest cope of all time whenever you have a bad QB.

Bryce Young had a shite offensive line and won the Heisman.


Ok kid.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
67573 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:11 pm to
In conversing with Bama fans here during the offseason, they suggested that anyone would be better than Milroe and really, they just needed a game manager.

This was never the case, DeBoer/Grubb run a very quarterback centric offense with little run game to speak of. They will go as far as the quarterback takes them. When the quarterback is playing great, it's great, when it isn't, it's not.

Unfortunately for Alabama, Simpson and Milroe weren't capable of carrying the entire offense consistently.

This was also just Simpson's first year starting so he could be much better next year.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6086 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:14 pm to
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DeBoer's/Grubb's offense isn't about running the ball - it never has been. It's about a high octane downfield passing attack. He


It’s not going to work. In the final half of the season, teams ran two high and shell coverage because they didn’t have to put bodies in the box. You can’t make a consistent living throwing into that style of coverage.
Either he changes his approach or a coaching change is inevitable.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3528 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:18 pm to
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DeBoer's failure is the inability to have a running game. No QB is saving Grubb and that scheme.



It feels like Grubb is 5 years too late, the all-out air attacks of the later 2010s are getting replaced by physical, complimentary football again in both college & the pros
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
3528 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:21 pm to
I know what you're trying to say but read it again...

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The prototypical QB for DeBoer would be Jayden Daniels or Trevor Lawrence. He likes tall QBs who can flick their wrist and throw it 40 yards on a rope.


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prototypical QB for ANY coach would be Heisman QB #1 or Heisman QB #2. The entire NFL likes tall Heisman-winning QBs who can flick their wrist and throw it 40 yards on a rope.


This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
1337 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:23 pm to
It is about ROI.

4/5 star HS kids are expensive. Really expensive. QB's are the most expensive.

Every team has an NIL budget, whatever it is. HS kids eat a big chunk of NIL while they grow up, fill out and get stronger.

You have to find a balance but tying up a lot of your NIL budget in a top 5 high school class really limits what you can spend in the portal on more experienced and proven portal players.

Roster building is a year to year thing too.
Posted by self_service
Member since Oct 2016
703 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:25 pm to
Ty Simpson is a first round draft pick on most big boards. He is the main reason Alabama was in the playoff to begin with. He had to do it all, because Alabama could NOT run the ball at all. This year they got 1500 rushing yards when 3000 was their standard in the past.

It seems crazy. It’s Alabama. They should be able to run the ball. But they couldn’t.

And if they’re pass-only, they need a WR room. They don’t have that guy. They don’t have Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Jameson Williams or the loaded talent from 2018 through 2020. They were hoping Ryan Williams is that guy but he’s not.
Posted by crimson_one
Member since Oct 2012
1328 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:25 pm to
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The Most Valid Criticism of DeBoer**


**See Mike Shula 2003-2004

Posted by UAClassOf22
Member since Dec 2025
28 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:32 pm to
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DeBoer/Grubb run a very quarterback centric offense with little run game to speak of. They will go as far as the quarterback takes them. When the quarterback is playing great, it's great, when it isn't, it's not.

Unfortunately for Alabama, Simpson and Milroe weren't capable of carrying the entire offense consistently.


Crazy how you understand this, but almost none of the Alabama fans here do.
Posted by UAClassOf22
Member since Dec 2025
28 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:35 pm to
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It feels like Grubb is 5 years too late, the all-out air attacks of the later 2010s are getting replaced by physical, complimentary football again in both college & the pros

Unfortunately, you may be right, but this seemed to work just a couple of years ago.
We'll see what happens when they get a QB with a rocket arm and some dominant WRs.

Our defense is doing just fine.
It's the offense that needs a total rebuild. DeBoer has a 180 complete opposite offensive philosophy from Saban.
Posted by jthomas666
Member since Jul 2008
626 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:52 pm to
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This year is an anomaly, re: buying a roster.

We don't have enough data to determine if this year is an anomaly or the new normal; I'm leaning towards the latter. After all, Vandy almost made the playoffs.

So it'll be a question of who best uses their budgets--like the NFL without salary caps.
Posted by Ironlung
Central Arkansas
Member since Nov 2017
1608 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:52 pm to
What we've learned in both years is that Bama is now Seattle South.
You have a PNW wokester at the helm and you've gone soft.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9952 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Transfer QBs are the way.


I think this is it. It’s what CFB is now.
Posted by That LSU Guy
Ponte Vedra Beach
Member since Jul 2008
15374 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 4:56 pm to
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The Most Valid Criticism of DeBoer
is that he loses games he has no business losing...

But, he also has a great winning percentage against ranked teams. So far that would be one helluva roller coaster, especially coming after the stability of the GOAT.

At least he's not off playing golf and taking vacations during the season.
This post was edited on 1/3/26 at 4:58 pm
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