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The Expanded playoffs are on the way...

Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:52 am
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17331 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:52 am
This will be the necessary response to the the trend of players sitting out bowl games. It might be a awhile, but it will happen.


(This is in response to the news that an NC State LBer, along with their best player and top WR, are sitting out the Gator Bowl.)
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:01 am
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:01 am to
Yeah, adding more games is definitely the solution
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:09 am to
Players that get a certain draft grade should be insured paid by the school for the bowl game. If they get hurt they get some monetary compensation. That may revert this trend some.
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:13 am to
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paid by the school for the bowl game.


Hmm.. seems like the schools already paid them to play in these bowl games... Remember those things called scholarships?

Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
922 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:13 am to
Why would they need to change that trend? A lot of people on here don't see anything wrong with them sitting out and some even encourage it!
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:15 am to
What's more likely is that the GiA contract will soon require them to play in the bowls UNLESS they have already graduated or will graduate prior to the bowl being played.
Posted by TarnishedWisdom90
Daphne, AL
Member since Sep 2018
1220 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:19 am to
I actually think it will expand too eventually. Probably to 8 I assume and i wouldnt want anymore than that. But I am struggling to understand your argument.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42371 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:19 am to
It will happen the year Bama is left out.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18150 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:23 am to
I agree with this but you have to make some changes. #1, get rid of the conference championship games and play quarter finals instead.

The bowls are not going anywhere, let them highlight the younger players.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:26 am to
I think 6 with top 2 having a bye is a good format. Same committee pick best 6. No autos.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:27 am to
If they’re going to add playoff games the sec is going to need to drop one regular season small opponent and add a 9th sec game. Maybe one power 5 team and a 9 game sec schedule with the sec cg (the league will never give that money maker up) and then an 8 team Playoff.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:38 am to
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hope the Expanded playoffs are on the way...

This will be the necessary response to the the trend of players sitting out bowl games. It might be a awhile, but it will happen.

(This is in response to the news that an NC State LBer, along with their best player and top WR, are sitting out the Gator Bowl.)


NC State isn't in the CFP final 25. How big do you want these playoffs?

The trend will continue among all non-playoff teams. It's just a new norm. Teams and coaches will have to adjust

I could see them creating an early NFL declaration deadline with enough Bowl sponsor pressure who get tired of losing star power in what are already lesser bowls. That way, bowl selections happen after the early NFL draft declaration deadline. But. That would take a lot of money and external coordination to make happen... not sure the effect is significant enough to really drive a sense of urgency toward that end just yet
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25556 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:42 am to
More playoff games will just kill the regular season.

It will kill the strength of schedule argument and kill future scheduling.

College football will become a race to lose as few games as possible. UCF and Notre Dame scheduling will become the norm.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:49 am to
Not if you put in the rules that one OOC game has to come from a power five conference. Then that will become part of the committee process a team that schedules OHio State and loses by three will be equal to a team that schedules Kansas and wins by 21.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25556 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:58 am to
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Not if you put in the rules that one OOC game has to come from a power five conference. Then that will become part of the committee process a team that schedules OHio State and loses by three will be equal to a team that schedules Kansas and wins by 21


You are fooling yourself.
Half of the power 5 teams are below average.
Bama and UGA have played 5 top 25 opponets.
Notre Dame has played 2.
Just look at how bad the other conferences CCGs were (pitt, northwestern, utah,etc..)

Playing a P5 opponent does not mean you have a good OOC schedule. That concept is a joke.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18163 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:00 am to
Just create 128 team FBS league cap with 16 x 8 team conferences.

The season is 7 weeks of conference only football.

Instill a 1 week bye the last week of Oct and start a fully seeded 7 round 128 team playoff in first week of Nov.

Elite 8 is complete by 2nd week of Dec.

Then, execute the final 4 and bowl selections as are currently conducted.

Most any team will play is 14 games. Fewest would be 8 games (for those not selected to a bowl), which really just eliminates the schit OOC matchups for most regular season schedules. Do away with .500 win % for bowl games and let the committee pick the best matchups.

Perfect solution and would be a true champ.


Oh... wait... the teams not in the final 4 would still have players sit out the bowl matches to protect their draft stock.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:00 am to
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More playoff games will just kill the regular season. It will kill the strength of schedule argument and kill future scheduling.


This is the gospel truth.

A big playoff will make the regular season pointless. You will know 75% of the field before the season begins.

You will have like the entire top 4 with their playoff spots locked up with several weeks left in the season.

Look at how absolutely meaningless and shitty the college basketball season is. Look at the current top 25, pretty much all of those teams are making the tournament. The entire 30 game season is just to determine some seedings for a winner take all tournament, it's absurd.


Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
17331 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:03 am to
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What's more likely is that the GiA contract will soon require them to play in the bowls UNLESS they have already graduated or will graduate prior to the bowl being played.




You can’t require someone to play. It’s too heavy handed. Players who feel their future is being put at risk could just dog it.
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
58 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:09 am to
So if you expand it to 8 do you take the top 8 after or before the conf. championships?



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