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The exit fees and lawsuits are gonna cost an ungodly sum
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:07 pm
I'm not saying this to crap all over the move. I've warmed up to it. I just think it's true that this is going to get real ugly and real expensive.
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Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby tells
@SINow
that he has documented evidence that ESPN tried to encourage an unnamed conference to add Big 12 members in an effort to destabilize the league so Texas & OU could avoid exit fees.
"It is tortious interference," he says.
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Ross Dellenger
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Bowlsby: "It causes me to further suspect they (ESPN) had their hands all over the Texas and Oklahoma move to the SEC. They were was deceptive as you can possibly be. There are right and wrong ways to these things. They sought to deceive us from the very beginning."
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:08 pm to Hugh McElroy
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It causes me to further suspect they (ESPN) had their hands all over the Texas and Oklahoma move to the SEC.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:08 pm to Hugh McElroy
Means nothing. Texas will be in the SEC in 22
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:10 pm to THE Texas Flagship
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Texas will be in the SEC in 22
Hope so. I also hope the Big 12 schools get 200 million from you and OU and ESPN.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:12 pm to Hugh McElroy
Worst case scenario for Disney:
The media will spin it and it will go away from public view. Then they settle for a 1/4 at most because they just drag it out in court.
The media will spin it and it will go away from public view. Then they settle for a 1/4 at most because they just drag it out in court.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:13 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby tells
@SINow
that he has documented evidence that ESPN tried to encourage an unnamed conference to add Big 12 members in an effort to destabilize the league so Texas & OU could avoid exit fees.
"It is tortious interference," he says.
1. If he actually had evidence, he's keep his mouth shut right now and file suit before tipping anyone off.
2. Tortious interference is HARD to prove. They better have damn good evidence if they do actually file suit (They won't. This is a publicity stunt)
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:15 pm to Hugh McElroy
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Hope so. I also hope the Big 12 schools get 200 million from you and OU and ESPN.
is that adjusted for Bidenflation?
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:17 pm to Hugh McElroy
The Big 12 are 10 schools.
The Big 12 have schools actively looking elsewhere.
UT, OU and say WVU, Kansas, Iowa St and Oklahoma St all have or will likely have new homes soon. That's over half the XII.
There's no one left to pursue litigation.
Those 6 could fire Bowlsby tomorrow.
The Big 12 have schools actively looking elsewhere.
UT, OU and say WVU, Kansas, Iowa St and Oklahoma St all have or will likely have new homes soon. That's over half the XII.
There's no one left to pursue litigation.
Those 6 could fire Bowlsby tomorrow.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:25 pm to Hugh McElroy
I'm sure some of these schools have made investments on both athletic and non-athletic facilities anticipating the television income all the schools agreed to. It's like having a business partner suddenly bail on you for a better offer after he has signed loans and contracts with you to banks and third parties.
I feel bad for them.
I feel bad for them.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:26 pm to THE Texas Flagship
And your new conference members will be running a train on your wrinkled, old steer arse. Enjoy.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:35 pm to secuniversity
The Big 12 organization would be, in theory, allowed to sue even if they have no members. Where ESPN comes into this is a different story. Unless they have like 4000 messages to West Virginia saying "lol move to the ACC" they really don't have a case.
I'm not looking into this any further than what I already have, but in short, businesses and organizations are free to look for new and better opportunities- that's what OU and Teaxs did. Accusing the media, with some applicable 1stAM protections, of tortious interference is something that would require serious case law study, but my guess is that they would be legally unable to separate the line between journalism and business in this interference.
Again, I have no idea what they're getting at- I have virtually no experience with contract law outside of 1L (UBC/Sales being inapplicable here). I'm curious, but this all seems like expensive, very expensive, virtue signaling
I'm not looking into this any further than what I already have, but in short, businesses and organizations are free to look for new and better opportunities- that's what OU and Teaxs did. Accusing the media, with some applicable 1stAM protections, of tortious interference is something that would require serious case law study, but my guess is that they would be legally unable to separate the line between journalism and business in this interference.
Again, I have no idea what they're getting at- I have virtually no experience with contract law outside of 1L (UBC/Sales being inapplicable here). I'm curious, but this all seems like expensive, very expensive, virtue signaling
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:36 pm to Houag80
Not in your wettest dream, Aggy. Bob Iger and Disney will run over the Big 12 within days
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:37 pm to Houag80
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And your new conference members will be running a train on your wrinkled, old steer arse. Enjoy.
Interesting visuals that you fantasize about.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:38 pm to Hugh McElroy
Don't worry, the lawyers are taking care of it. All you have to worry about is being mentally prepared for the beatdown at DKR really soon.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:18 pm to Hugh McElroy
I said yesterday or the day before they'd try to go after ESPN for tortuous interference and got downvoted. what the heck guys???
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:22 pm to Hugh McElroy
This means they will get something.
ESPN was being sneaky to use the AAC to pull things apart, but they only way the Big 12 knows is that member must have told the conference.
If they can get say $50 million each from OU and Texas that is equal to five years of AAC revenue. It’s worth waiting for.
ESPN was being sneaky to use the AAC to pull things apart, but they only way the Big 12 knows is that member must have told the conference.
If they can get say $50 million each from OU and Texas that is equal to five years of AAC revenue. It’s worth waiting for.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:24 pm to Hugh McElroy
The “evidence” they have involves the AAC not OU and Texas…and I bet it doesn’t amount to anything. Bowlsby is just trying to justify his existence.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:27 pm to Bama Bird
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The Big 12 organization would be, in theory, allowed to sue even if they have no members. Where ESPN comes into this is a different story. Unless they have like 4000 messages to West Virginia saying "lol move to the ACC" they really don't have a case.
I'm not looking into this any further than what I already have, but in short, businesses and organizations are free to look for new and better opportunities- that's what OU and Teaxs did. Accusing the media, with some applicable 1stAM protections, of tortious interference is something that would require serious case law study, but my guess is that they would be legally unable to separate the line between journalism and business in this interference.
Again, I have no idea what they're getting at- I have virtually no experience with contract law outside of 1L (UBC/Sales being inapplicable here). I'm curious, but this all seems like expensive, very expensive, virtue signaling
The cease and desist rather than lawsuit and request for some sort of injunction on ESPN is saying something. I don’t think the conference has the hand they claim and I think the conference members do not want a lawsuit because they’re actively shopping right now. You don’t want to be involved in a legal matter with the very people you’re inevitably going to negotiate with for television carriage.
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:31 pm to secuniversity
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Those 6 could fire Bowlsby tomorrow
And, they should fire him...The moron is torpedoing there chances of ESPN helping them find a landing spot..Some of them might have landed in a decent conference, but now there options are probably even fewer than before because the idiot just pissed off ESPN. They might have got somewhat decent contracts from ESPN to play along, but now, probably have to go crawling to FOX and take what they can get..The guy is the definition of dumb, no matter the conference is folding..
He should be fired tonight, actually, like as soon as this news broke.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:41 pm to Hugh McElroy
That's business mf'ers. Why do they conferences think their business should be any different? Get a better offer? Leave sinkin' ship. They did nothing to build their conference or brand. Let Texas dictate everything and run over them and are shocked that they are riding south into the sunset and MONEY!!!!!
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