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re: The death of the conference title
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:20 pm to AshLSU
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:20 pm to AshLSU
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Bama could have just not got their arse handed to them by Auburn.
Every team in the playoff has one loss. So clearly 1 loss to a good team doesn't disqualify you. But you guys are arguing that it was ok for Ohio St of all teams to get a pass for 2 losses?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:21 pm to TailbackU
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the conference TITLE is meaningless
No, it's not. It is the most important criteria for getting into the CFP. It's just not an exclusive or automatic criteria. If you want it that way, go to a 6 team playoff with 1 at large bid and the too 2 seeds getting a bye.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:22 pm to Monticello
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Every team in the playoff has one loss. So clearly 1 loss to a good team doesn't disqualify you. But you guys are arguing that it was ok for Ohio St of all teams to get a pass for 2 losses?
Whole argument is silly. No one should think Ohio State is better than Alabama if they watched them play this year.
That being said, I think Alabama is in for a rough time with Clemson and/or either GA or Oklahoma... but all of those teams would destroy Ohio State.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:25 pm to TailbackU
I don't even have a dog in the fight, Auburn vs. Alabama, but I'm not sure I'd put Auburn in the CFP even if they had beat Georgia yesterday. They'd probably get in on SEC rep and their 2 losses being to Clemson and top-20 LSU, but I wouldn't feel it was unfair if they didn't.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:27 pm to craigbiggio
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OSU could have just not lost by 31 to Iowa
Bama could have beaten the only good team they played all year.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:28 pm to starsandstripes
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This will give us an eight team playoff which is needed
not needed. in fact it's the worst idea ever.
Agree. If we had an 8 team playoff, the LSU fans would be arguing about why Auburn gets in as a 10-3 team while 10-2 PSU, Miami, and Washington all were left out. All expansion does is extend the argument to the #8 v. 9 team.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:29 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Wisconsin should’ve declined invite to Big 10 title game. Finished year undefeated, made playoffs.
Wisconsin needed the title game to show the committee they were worthy of being top 4. Bama not so much.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:29 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Ohio State with their third string quarterback is the best team in the country.
please explain this
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:33 pm to Monticello
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Every team in the playoff has one loss
Every team in the playoff minus one has multiple top 15 wins. Guess the one who doesn't.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:35 pm to TailbackU
As it pertains to selecting the 4 playoff teams, conference championships shouldn't mean jack shite. There are many seasons where two or even three teams from a particular conference will be better than the conference champion from another conference. In this case besting 11 other vagabonds within the Big 10 is no reason to be awarded a playoff spot.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
OSU not getting probably had more to do with your program and politics then anything else regarding the CFB playoffs. 2014 OSU had only beaten 1 ranked team during the season. Baylor beat 3 ranked teams. OSU beat an overrated Wisc team in the Big10 CG and the committee awarded the spot to OSU over Baylor. heir justification was conference championships are important. Last year OSU does not win conference or their division but the committee justify putting you in over someone that beat you head to head and won the conference because you had only 1 loss to their 2 losses. Even that bad loss they had to Pitt was only by 3.
Ironic isn't that 1st you get in using ccg as the criteria, next that does not and you get because OSU only had 1 loss, but karma this year caught up to you.
Ironic isn't that 1st you get in using ccg as the criteria, next that does not and you get because OSU only had 1 loss, but karma this year caught up to you.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:35 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Florida State would have kicked y'all's arse in that first game, so....
Or scheduled Florida State and Mercer instead.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:37 pm to ShreveportHog94
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Every team in the playoff has one loss
Every team in the playoff minus one has multiple top 15 wins. Guess the one who doesn't.
So go find me a team with 1 or fewer losses and multiple top 15 wins that didn't make the playoff and I will support putting them in over Bama.
Almost no one is arguing that Bama is some unstoppable team with an elite resume. It's just better than everyone else's because we don't have multiple embarrassing losses.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:42 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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SEC created it. Fitting if we end it.
Not even trying to hide the corruption anymore.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:43 pm to TailbackU
You do realize that Alabama in 2011 was not the first team playing in the title game that didn't win it's conference, right?
I know this makes you upset, but it will pass.
I know this makes you upset, but it will pass.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:52 pm to JuiceTerry
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Because Alabama is one of the 4 best teams in the country. Wiscy isn't.
It's really that simple.
i certainly don't think Alabama would have (or should have) jumped a 13-0 Wisconsin Big10 champion.. do you?
That's what i don't really understand about the "4 best teams" argument. Bama (and programs like Texas, USC-w, Notre Dame, etc.) should just schedule all creampuffs outside of conference play.. Mercer, Kent st, WKU, and Georgia Southern every season and try to get through conference play with less than two losses.. because they'll get in based on the "eye test" (which just received a name change to "the best team" test).
Vegas had Bama as a 3 point favorite over Ohio State.. that's razor thin
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:02 pm to TideWarrior
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2014 OSU had only beaten 1 ranked team during the season. Baylor beat 3 ranked teams.
Baylor beat two ranked teams, the same as Ohio State. They also didn't have a 13th game or a conference championship. Easy pick.
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because you had only 1 loss to their 2 losses.
This isn't why Ohio State got in. Three wins over the committee's top eight is why Ohio State got in.
What else ya got?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:04 pm to coachcrisp
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Florida State would have kicked y'all's arse in that first game, so....
2017 Florida State is an easy win.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:08 pm to Monticello
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So go find me a team with 1 or fewer losses and multiple top 15 wins that didn't make the playoff and I will support putting them in over Bama.
Almost no one is arguing that Bama is some unstoppable team with an elite resume. It's just better than everyone else's because we don't have multiple embarrassing losses.
12-1 #6 Wisconsin:
Lost to #5 by 6 points.
Beat #21 Northwestern (A little weaker than win over #16 LSU)
Beat Michigan (Equivalent to Miss St)
Beat Iowa (Equivalent to Texas A&M)
Beat Purdue (Equivalent to Ole Miss)
Beat BYU (Equivalent to Arkansas)
Beat FAU (Equivalent to Fresno)
They have nearly identical resumes.. why choose an 11-1 team over the 12-1 team who only lost in their conference championship game?
I don't like the idea of punishing undefeated Wisconsin for losing in a conference championship game when a team who couldn't make it to their conference championship game gets put over them because of it. If Wisconsin just stayed home instead of making the trip to play Ohio State they would be in the playoffs right now.. and that's a huge red flag to me.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 12/3/17 at 6:10 pm to spacewrangler
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I know this has been a really tough past 24hours.. get beat down and now both of your most hated rivals have a shot at the NC
Not just that, they actually BEAT their two biggest rivals in November, and both are going to the CFP before Auburn.
That's gotta suck.
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