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re: The death of the conference title
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:03 pm to TailbackU
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:03 pm to TailbackU
Once, when the conference's had bowl tie in it mattered some. It used to matter in college basketball too until it was obvious the 4th place acc team was better than the first place sec team and it was decided to go with the best teams in the NCAA tourney.
Now football has done the same. 4 SEC teams would have won the Pac 12 conference in foitball before usc. 3 SEC teams were better than Ohio state in the big 10. Wiscy MIGHT have won 8 games in the SEC. Before they eliminated conference tie ins it mattered. Now with a nationwide playoff it matters none. Get used to it.
Now football has done the same. 4 SEC teams would have won the Pac 12 conference in foitball before usc. 3 SEC teams were better than Ohio state in the big 10. Wiscy MIGHT have won 8 games in the SEC. Before they eliminated conference tie ins it mattered. Now with a nationwide playoff it matters none. Get used to it.
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Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:04 pm to bmy
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going 0-1 against the top-10, beating #16, and scraping by #23 just isn't play-off worthy.
And most years Bama doesn't make it with that resume. But this was a down year with really only 3 truly deserving teams. #4 had to go to someone though and Bama was the best one left.
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UCF, Wisconsin
Come on man. Imagine if LSU was 11-1 right now with its only loss being to Bama. Would you really be arguing for UCF or Wisconsin to go over LSU?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:05 pm to craigbiggio
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OSU could have just not lost by 31 to Iowa
Bama could have just not got their arse handed to them by Auburn.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:06 pm to craigbiggio
And Alabama did not have to lose to aubarn
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Wisconsin should’ve declined invite to Big 10 title game. Finished year undefeated, made playoffs.
It's got to be a conference rule that you can't decline. Also, the CFP selection committee should reject any team that refuses to play in it's conference championship game.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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I don’t have an issue with non conference champs making it, as much as teams getting penalized for playing an extra game.
This^^^.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:08 pm to TailbackU
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When Spurrier was at UF he used to say that the goal was always to win the SEC every year, because winning the SEC was the only true title and if he won that, the rest would take care of itself
Well, Georgia got in so...
What's your point?
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:09 pm to AshLSU
[quote]Bama could have just not got their arse handed to them by Auburn.
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But that didn't keep Bama out. At the end of the day, that loss only cost us the SEC (which sucks)
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But that didn't keep Bama out. At the end of the day, that loss only cost us the SEC (which sucks)
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:10 pm to TailbackU
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But the conference TITLE is meaningless. It isn't factored into the playoff discussion.
It was how Ohio State leapfrogged TCU and Baylor in 2014. OSU won their conference title, TCU and Baylor did not have an outright title, and the committee saw OSU, TCU, and Baylor as all being comparable teams. So the conference title was the tiebreaker for OSU. In 2016 11-2 PSU was not comparable to 11-1 OSU so OSU went in without a title. Same thing this year for 11-1 Alabama over 11-2 OSU.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:10 pm to TailbackU
quote:are you from the past? This exact thing happened last year too
TailbackU
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:10 pm to Monticello
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Come on man. Imagine if LSU was 11-1 right now with its only loss being to Bama. Would you really be arguing for UCF or Wisconsin to go over LSU?
me? no. i'd want to see LSU in. but i'd expect most college football fans and the committee to choose the 12-1 team who lost in a conference championship game to a top-10 team over the 11-1 team who couldn't win their division.
the resumes were too similar. UCF would have been the best option though.
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:10 pm to Monticello
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In fact, SEC champion UGA would be left out of the national title.
The BCS simulators I've seen project that UGA would have jumped Oklahoma, but your point is well taken.
Here's one of them
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:11 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Florida State with their QB would have wiped the floor with OSU
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:12 pm to Swm323
They set a precedent last season that Alabama benefited from this season. They set a precedent by letting Nebraska and Oklahoma in the BCS without a conference championship.
But keep melting and acting like this has never happened before today.
But keep melting and acting like this has never happened before today.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:13 pm to bmy
quote:Because Alabama is one of the 4 best teams in the country. Wiscy isn't.
why on earth does 12-1 Wisconsin get put below 11-1 Alabama?
It's really that simple.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:14 pm to TailbackU
Maybe the 2 recent teams in the SECCG are to blame.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:14 pm to labamafan
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This will give us an eight team playoff which is needed
not needed. in fact it's the worst idea ever.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:16 pm to Monticello
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Same thing this year for 11-1 Alabama over 11-2 OSU.
Nah, not the same thing. Alabama didn't have the resume, they just didn't have the Iowa loss. Ohio State and Alabama were comparable, but the committee couldn't get over the Iowa loss. They put more value in that than they did the conference championship. Whether they'll admit it or not, last years playoff factored in, too, I think.
It'll be a good day when Hocutt is gone.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:17 pm to bamafan1001
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Florida State with their QB would have wiped the floor with OSU
Ohio State with their third string quarterback is the best team in the country.
Posted on 12/3/17 at 5:19 pm to TailbackU
Except Spurrier whined and complained like a little girl when it was 1st announced that we would have a conference championship game. Which I can understand because UA was not on his schedule the next year. 
This post was edited on 12/3/17 at 5:20 pm
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