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re: Texas A&M leads the league in athletic debt at 279 million

Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:10 am to
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4766 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:10 am to
I would assume that LSU's debt is due to the expansion of the South Endzone. Cal is completely fricked, guess they are like the rest of California and can't balance their budget.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62192 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:25 am to
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They're paying their WBB coach $2.5 million a year.


“Mulkey signed an eight-year contract with LSU in the spring of 2021, worth roughly $2.5 million per year. Not only did Mulkey make some history for LSU, but she firmly cemented her legacy among the greatest women's basketball coaches in the history of the sport.“
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28194 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 10:31 am to
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Mulkey signed an eight-year contract with LSU in the spring of 2021, worth roughly $2.5 million per year. Not only did Mulkey make some history for LSU, but she firmly cemented her legacy among the greatest women's basketball coaches in the history of the sport.“


Don't care how many championships she wins, there's zero chance her sport will generate enough income to support her salary.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18258 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 11:23 am to
Well, LSU's athletic debt isn't that great either.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
2912 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 11:40 am to
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Has anyone done less with more?


if you were a real longhorn fan I'd say we should keep our fricking mouths shut on this. We haven't done any better than A&M in a long time.
but since you're an aggie....go frick yourself.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5474 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 11:57 am to
Public finance is not owning land and making millions off of oil & gas leases, like TA&M & UT do.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Public finance is not owning land and making millions off of oil & gas leases, like TA&M & UT do.


The dividends from the PUF don't go to athletics, not sure what/how much state funding is involved, but the PUF is only for academic advancements.

edit:

UT & A&M are 100% naturally self funded. Texas gives back $10M+ to the University (more if you count the LHN cut).

Keep in mind the pencil whipping going on with all of the books, the scholarship revenue covered by AD's are based on full tuition.. avg student body is not paying anywhere near that.

A&M's debt to earnings ratio is fine, the debt service is actually on the expense report for NCAA AD's since 2016. While they may not kick back to the university as much as most top revenue programs, they are covering their expenses and some excluding the covid year.

Even if one of these top programs somehow found themselves in real trouble, we'd never know as the list of donors would be lined up out the door to keep them floating.. the local community and university economic benefits dwarf any subsidies that could ever be required.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 1:22 pm
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
4618 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:08 pm to
Got a new stadium at 1% interest rate. You obviously never studied business.

What does LSU have to show for their debt?
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
1330 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:23 pm to

Probably a pretty good bet that all B1G and SEC (including OU and Texas) schools on that list are fine. Most of that is probably bond for facilities and the like.

Now if I were Cal, San Diego St and a few other schools on that list, I would have a little concern.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:31 pm to
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Probably a pretty good bet that all B1G and SEC (including OU and Texas) schools on that list are fine. Most of that is probably bond for facilities and the like.

Now if I were Cal, San Diego St and a few other schools on that list, I would have a little concern.



I'd bet 99.5% are facilities based and income generating investments.

I wouldn't trust any of the debt reports, under a real financial microscope I'm certain things are vastly different. It's all musical chairs to have the best "cake" come out of the oven.
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:33 pm to
But but all the A@M posters think they are rich … losers!
Posted by NotImber
Member since Jun 2023
1182 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:34 pm to
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What does LSU have to show for their debt?




Championships
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:35 pm to
OU and Texas on that list because of media rights deal …. OU has been a net positive athletic department for like the last 25 years .
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
25728 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:36 pm to
Why is it always LSU posters that are obsessed with A&M’s finances?
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62753 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 1:49 pm to
But lsu probably did the same as Aggie, got the funds from a successful capital campaign, then put it in the bank earning 5% while financing it at 3%


Longhorns are the only major program to fail and multiple campaigns and have to forfeit revenue from major sports to get themselves new facilities
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:39 pm to
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But lsu probably did the same as Aggie, got the funds from a successful capital campaign, then put it in the bank earning 5% while financing it at 3%


Longhorns are the only major program to fail and multiple campaigns and have to forfeit revenue from major sports to get themselves new facilities




Whatever slim mileage you ever got out of your fish camp fantasies, they are nearing expiration. You should focus your energies on finding another WW1 era fake national championship. More realistically, work on finding a few more asterisk divisional championships.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
15607 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:42 pm to
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BurntOrangeMan


How about you refute what he said instead of acting like an immature bitch?
Posted by Themicah86
Member since Jun 2023
2760 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:43 pm to
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Cal must be panicked AF right now. All that debt, their conference is collapsing around them, and they currently have no where to go.


They're probably donating 50 million to the reparations fund and raising all the non minority tuition lol. They deserve every bit of this shite.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 2:45 pm to
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How about you refute what he said instead of acting like an immature bitch?


Because I've done it a hundred times and dumb cuntz like you still keep running your bitch mouth.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
62753 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:17 pm to
Nothing in A&Ms or LSU’s history is as embarrassing as failing with 4 financial campaigns asking donors, no begging donors to help raise money for your basketball venue and after 9 years only getting less than 8% donated. Only after the embarrassing news broke did Moody foundation step forward and private investors agree to take your venues revenue for decades in exchange for giving you a new venue

Like I said, no major university athletic program that I know of has ever suffered such an embarrassment
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