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re: Teams with most National Championship according to the NCAA
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:44 pm to Auburn80
Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:44 pm to Auburn80
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So how many does Auburn have according to your method? Hint: it's more than 2.
I'd be fine with all schools agreeing to the same method, and us all going with that. Until that happens, schools can choose their own methods and Alabama's method is a reasonable one.
No matter what method is chosen, Alabama will be the cream of the crop.
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Posted on 7/9/22 at 6:46 pm to RelentlessTide
Any national title prior to 1936 is subjective. That being said, I believe 1925, 1926, 1930, and 1934 are all legitimate claims that Alabama can stand on. 1941 is not. But if you want to count just poll era national championships, Alabama has 13.
1961 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1964 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1965 - Awarded by AP
1973 - Awarded by Coaches
1978 - Awarded by AP
1979 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1992 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
2009 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2011 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2012 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2015 - Awarded by CFP
2017 - Awarded by CFP
2020 - Awarded by CFP
1961 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1964 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1965 - Awarded by AP
1973 - Awarded by Coaches
1978 - Awarded by AP
1979 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1992 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
2009 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2011 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2012 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2015 - Awarded by CFP
2017 - Awarded by CFP
2020 - Awarded by CFP
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:06 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No trophy was awarded, therefore no championship, imo.
your opinion doesn't matter...NCAA recognizes it...
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:26 pm to RelentlessTide
I'm claiming 1940 for Mississippi State because we were undefeated. 
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:35 pm to MullenBoys
Also, I would give Alabama the 1934 Championship title. They played a tougher schedule and actually played in, and won the Rose Bowl.
As per Wikipedia
Once again, University of Illinois Professor Frank Dickinson's math system selected a Big Ten team as national champion, the undefeated Minnesota Golden Gophers. William Boand and Professor Edward Earl Litkenhous also selected Minnesota at the end of the season. The conference, however, still had a bar against its members playing in the postseason, so Minnesota did not play in any of the bowl games. The undefeated and eventual Rose Bowl champion Alabama Crimson Tide was selected as national champion by the other contemporary math system selectors, Dick Dunkel, Paul Williamson and Deke Houlgate.
As per Wikipedia
Once again, University of Illinois Professor Frank Dickinson's math system selected a Big Ten team as national champion, the undefeated Minnesota Golden Gophers. William Boand and Professor Edward Earl Litkenhous also selected Minnesota at the end of the season. The conference, however, still had a bar against its members playing in the postseason, so Minnesota did not play in any of the bowl games. The undefeated and eventual Rose Bowl champion Alabama Crimson Tide was selected as national champion by the other contemporary math system selectors, Dick Dunkel, Paul Williamson and Deke Houlgate.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:47 pm to MOJO_ERASER
Child OU plays in one of the weakest conferences and still could only win 7.
However a few questions
All of Alabama's NC winning teams played on bowls, did all of OU's?
All of Alabama's regular season opponents' at the end had a cumulative mean total winning record, did all of OU's?
(hint, look at OU's schedule for 1956)
However a few questions
All of Alabama's NC winning teams played on bowls, did all of OU's?
All of Alabama's regular season opponents' at the end had a cumulative mean total winning record, did all of OU's?
(hint, look at OU's schedule for 1956)
Posted on 7/9/22 at 7:50 pm to BLG
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apparently not according to ncaa.com
Some places list Alabama with like 25 or whatever, but I don't buy that either. I guess an unbiased source like ncaa.com is as good as any way to measure it so I'll just go with what they list. Another way would be to measure since the 2 major polls started AP and UPI/Coaches poll. Or measure since the playoffs began as far as I care. Any way you measure it, Alabama has more than any other team since the Ivy League teams were playing rugby type football back in the 1800's
NCAA.com isn't affiliated with the NCAA...
Posted on 7/9/22 at 9:17 pm to TideFaninFl
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All of Alabama's NC winning teams played on bowls, did all of OU's?
OU played in a bowl every time they could. OU lost one bowl game where they were declared national champion. Bama has lost two ('64 and '73). OU's undefeated teams in 1949 and 1954 got some play as National champions in some of these services but the school itself will not recognize any NC's except for wire service ones.
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:06 pm to MOJO_ERASER
Alabama dominates the national championship count, whether counting just the poll era or pre-poll era and present.
1936-Present using only AP, UPI/Coaches/BCS, CFP
Alabama - 13
Notre Dame - 8
Oklahoma - 7
Southern Cal - 7
Ohio State - 6
Miami - 5
Nebraska - 5
Minnesota - 4
Louisiana St - 4
Texas - 4
Clemson - 3
Florida - 3
Florida State - 3
Pittsburgh - 2
Penn State - 2
Michigan St - 2
Georgia - 2
Tennessee - 2
Army - 2
Auburn - 2
Michigan - 2
Washington - 1
Texas Christian - 1
Texas A&M - 1
Maryland - 1
UCLA - 1
Syracuse - 1
Brigham Young - 1
Georgia Tech - 1
Colorado - 1
1936-Present using only AP, UPI/Coaches/BCS, CFP
Alabama - 13
Notre Dame - 8
Oklahoma - 7
Southern Cal - 7
Ohio State - 6
Miami - 5
Nebraska - 5
Minnesota - 4
Louisiana St - 4
Texas - 4
Clemson - 3
Florida - 3
Florida State - 3
Pittsburgh - 2
Penn State - 2
Michigan St - 2
Georgia - 2
Tennessee - 2
Army - 2
Auburn - 2
Michigan - 2
Washington - 1
Texas Christian - 1
Texas A&M - 1
Maryland - 1
UCLA - 1
Syracuse - 1
Brigham Young - 1
Georgia Tech - 1
Colorado - 1
Posted on 7/9/22 at 10:36 pm to TideFaninFl
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Child
Yuck that made me feel gross.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:57 am to LSURulzSEC
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your opinion doesn't matter...NCAA recognizes it...
NCAA recognition doesn't matter, LSU doesn't recognize it.
Mostly because they don't have a trophy to show for it.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:07 am to RollTide1987
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1961 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1964 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1965 - Awarded by AP
1973 - Awarded by Coaches
1978 - Awarded by AP
1979 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
1992 - Awarded by AP & Coaches
2009 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2011 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2012 - Awarded by AP & BCS
2015 - Awarded by CFP
2017 - Awarded by CFP
2020 - Awarded by CFP
Lol at 1973
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:12 am to RelentlessTide
I have ocean front property in Arizona if you honestly think Alabama has 16 legit national championships lol
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:34 am to MOJO_ERASER
Everyone thinks Texas is going to have the biggest adjustment in coming to the SEC, and it is going to be a culture shock for them, but they are just douchebags in general and that won't change once they get here. It's OU who is going to struggle, because they're used to being cocks of the walk in the Big XII. It is really going to rankle them standing in Alabama's shadow.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:47 am to RollTide1987
It's almost time for Chicken to bump his thread.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:59 am to boweswi05
It’s not Alabama’s fault the UPI still crowned their national champion before the bowls. Since that was the criteria, Alabama at 11-0-0 as a national champion isn’t laughable at all. Many look at it as laughable based on the season ending result but fail to realize their claim is just as legit as Notre Dame with the post-bowl AP claim.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:06 pm to BLG
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apparently not according to ncaa.com
Some places list Alabama with like 25 or whatever, but I don't buy that either. I guess an unbiased source like ncaa.com is as good as any way to measure it so I'll just go with what they list. Another way would be to measure since the 2 major polls started AP and UPI/Coaches poll. Or measure since the playoffs began as far as I care. Any way you measure it, Alabama has more than any other team since the Ivy League teams were playing rugby type football back in the 1800's
NCAA.com has no significance, the article is mostly opinion. However, the 16 he counted for Alabama is correct.
There are distinct eras of college football rankings.
PrePoll Era: before 1936.
Poll Era: 1936-1997
BCS Era: 1998-2013
Playoff Era: 2014-present
I might be off a year on those dates, but those are the eras.
The correct way to count national championships is based on era. There is 1 rule across all eras: You can't award yourself a NC.
Prepoll era is pretty much a free for all. Math polls, Rose bowl wins and such are pretty much legitmate and widely claimed.
Poll era is AP or Coaches poll. Math polls in that time period are invalid(Alabama 1941, which he correctly did not count).
BCS era is obviously BCS Championships, Polls in that era are invalid - Sorry USC, LSU was the only NC that year. It's the agreed upon format, deal with it.
And then of course Playoff era is playoff national championships. Sorry UCF, your national championship is 80+ years too late.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:29 pm to RelentlessTide
Any title before the 1970s is likely to be flawed anyway. The thing was handed out before the bowls, which rarely put #1 v #2 together anyway.
The whole thing was dumb as shite and counting or arguing about the 1927 UPI NC is embarrassing.
The whole thing was dumb as shite and counting or arguing about the 1927 UPI NC is embarrassing.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 4:31 pm to Nitro Express
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We have as many as Oklahoma in their entire history since 1992, and that's not including Bear's 6, or Frank Thomas, or...
This is exactly why it was so egregious to claim the fake ones……..you didn’t need to.
But you did it anyway and STILL claim them
Posted on 7/10/22 at 6:10 pm to 3down10
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Nothing in this thread nor the OP link indicates the NCAA awarded any of those football championships. Apparently you can't read the title of the thread then. quote:National Championship according to the NCAA
Apparently you can’t comprehend what you read. It says according to, not awarded by.
The NCAA doesn’t award NC’s in Division I football, but it does list titles on its website.
and not just the one in the link. 
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