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re: Sumrall built different from Lane

Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Coaches change jobs all the time while still knowing they will finish out their contract with you professionally on the way out. They didn't trust Lane to behave professionally on the way out.

And neither did Saban. It's not like it's just us who don't trust Lane to act appropriately when he's already accepted another job.


Sure, but if Lane tells CWJ to tamper with someone, why wouldn't CWJ do it? His loyalty is to Lane at this point, his future success hinges on being successful at his next stop.

Also, coaches take players with them all the time. It's basically expected now. Cignetti basically imported JMU to Indiana.

Ole Miss really just couldn't have Lane on the sideline while the TV guys blathered on about him taking the LSU job, and I get that. But as far as tampering, it could've still happened either way. We all know Lane messages these guys on social media.


Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:32 pm to
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Sure, but if Lane tells CWJ to tamper with someone, why wouldn't CWJ do it? His loyalty is to Lane at this point, his future success hinges on being successful at his next stop


Right or wrong we trusted CWJ and the others to act like professionals and handle things the right way. And other than the RB coach, by all accounts they did.

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Also, coaches take players with them all the time. It's basically expected now. Cignetti basically imported JMU to Indiana.


Doesn't mean you just want to roll over and make it as easy as possible for that to happen.

Plus, it is different when players are going from the Sun Belt to the Big than inter-conference.

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Ole Miss really just couldn't have Lane on the sideline while the TV guys blathered on about him taking the LSU job, and I get that


Letting Lane coach would have been like subjecting yourself to the cuck chair. In no world can you do that. The LSU AD himself has come out and said he would handle the situation the exact same way.

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But as far as tampering, it could've still happened either way. We all know Lane messages these guys on social media.


Oh it 100% still happened. But it's easier to limit when it's just on social media / phone calls than being 24/7 in the locker room / on the practice field.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2800 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:39 pm to
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Sure, but if Lane tells CWJ to tamper with someone, why wouldn't CWJ do it?


Is that same plan he used leaving UT?

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The Poaching AttemptsThe Telephone Incident:

While Kiffin was attempting to hold a team meeting in Knoxville to announce his resignation, his defensive line coach Ed Orgeron was reportedly on the phone in the background calling mid-term freshman enrollees.

The Speakerphone Confrontation:

Orgeron called several freshmen (including five-star Ja'Wuan James) to offer them scholarships at USC. Tennessee players found out, answered the phone, and angrily told Orgeron to stop calling their teammates before the players took away the phones and hung up.

No Class Pivot:

Orgeron explicitly instructed the recruits not to attend their first day of class so they could follow the coaches to Southern California.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 5:00 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72379 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Letting Lane coach would have been like subjecting yourself to the cuck chair. In no world can you do that. The LSU AD himself has come out and said he would handle the situation the exact same way.


I agree with that part. I think the tampering stuff was somewhat overblown though. I don't think it's drastically worse with Lane there in person.

There was definitely some tampering going on from Frank's end as well.

Functionally. Lane being there wouldn't have been drastically different than Sumrall or the JMU coach coaching the playoff IMO, it was just a bad look because of the programs being in the same conference and being rivals.

I don't think the results really look any different either way though.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 4:44 pm
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2559 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:10 pm to
Easy to say when he knew his team was not getting past round 1 of the playoffs.

So righteous and noble of him to “wait till the season’s over” (another week), so he could “coach his team” aka stand on the sideline and watch his team take a 31 point arse kicking while daydreaming about being in Gainesville.
Posted by Lucado
Member since Nov 2023
4917 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:11 pm to
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quote:Lane tried to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs. Their AD wouldn’t allow it after Lane took the head coaching job at their arch rival mid season before a playoff run. Do LSU fans realize how fricking insane this request was?


How insane was it? Y’all let his entire coaching staff stay on other than Lane. Sumrall and several others stayed on to coach their teams. Your AD, who seems to spend the majority of his time arguing with your fans on Twitter, got his panties in a wad and made a panic hire. You’re about to find out what a terrible hire it was too.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Sumrall you're comparing Apples & Oranges. Two rivalry teams in the same conference.


He wasn't making a comparison, you are. He said for him in his situation, not for anyone else in their situation. Kiffin is of course a completely different situation. Why are all the LSU fans making the comparison? Tulane wasn't bitter about him moving on because he didn't move to a conference rival.

I don't know why I am wasting my breath, LSU fans are going to hate the shite out of this guy one way or another.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Oh, you know it was tough. Saban always praised Kirby for doing his D-cord duties and HC duties for UGA. Not so much with Lane and some Florida school


Correct me if I am wrong here, but pretty sure free transfers and NIL were not a thing when Kirby was making that transition. Further, an assistant coach moving into a HC position is a bit different.

Add in that early signing day didn’t start until 2 years later and you bitches can shove your BS up your holes. This is why so many of you are stupid.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:00 pm to
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Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2800 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:11 pm to
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Oh, you know it was tough. Saban always praised Kirby for doing his D-cord duties and HC duties for UGA. Not so much with Lane and some Florida school



Correct me if I am wrong here, but pretty sure free transfers and NIL were not a thing when Kirby was making that transition. Further, an assistant coach moving into a HC position is a bit different.


I was referring to Lane leaving Alabama for Florida Atlantic before playing Clemson.

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Add in that early signing day didn’t start until 2 years later and you bitches can shove your BS up your holes. This is why so many of you are stupid


You typed that out for no reason. Now who looks stupid
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:18 pm to
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Lane tried to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs. Their AD wouldn’t allow it. I don’t know how many times this needs to be repeated.


Talk to Keith Carter about this. Ole Miss is most likely NC's if LK is allowed to finish it out.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72379 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:28 pm to
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He wasn't making a comparison, you are. He said for him in his situation, not for anyone else in their situation. Kiffin is of course a completely different situation. Why are all the LSU fans making the comparison? Tulane wasn't bitter about him moving on because he didn't move to a conference rival.


The thread title is the reason, I would assume.
Posted by 1983
Member since Jan 2026
199 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:37 pm to
No AD with any common sense would have let Lane coach Ole Miss in playoffs! Don’t be naive!
Posted by 1983
Member since Jan 2026
199 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:39 pm to
This is so good! Most respectable coaches would have stayed and not let a team down! What a weak mentality Lane has!
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
50418 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:41 pm to
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The thread title is the reason, I would assume.


Ah yes there is that.

I think they are two different situations though. Tulane wasn't going to try and keep him, so there was no animosity.

This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 9:42 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
50418 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:44 pm to
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This is so good! Most respectable coaches would have stayed and not let a team down! What a weak mentality Lane has!


Well it's hard to stay at a place that says you can't stay.

I'm not saying Lane handled it perfectly, but it is impossible to leave one SEC school and go to another without ruffling some feathers.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72379 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:49 pm to
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I think they are two different situations though. Tulane wasn't going to try and keep him, so there was no animosity.


Tulane and JMU know their place in the food chain, Ole Miss lives in more of a grey area. Not a shot at Ole Miss, by the way
Posted by 1983
Member since Jan 2026
199 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:55 pm to
Yep but you don’t leave for your rival! Come on and if Indiana can win so can Ole Miss. Those that think LSU is a better job now is naive!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72379 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:56 pm to
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Yep but you don’t leave for your rival! Come on and if Indiana can win so can Ole Miss. Those that think LSU is a better job now is naive!


So you're saying you know more about which is the better job, than actual football coaches?
Posted by 1983
Member since Jan 2026
199 posts
Posted on 5/27/26 at 9:59 pm to
You don’t have to be a football coach to see that in today’s landscape of college football! It is the Wild West and schools just need money! And Ole Miss has it just like so many!
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