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re: Sticking with Pittman is unacceptable
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:39 am to TouchdownTony
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:39 am to TouchdownTony
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Hiring Pittman to begin with was the mistake.
You have no idea what the story was behind that
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:40 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Who would arky fans want?
Give me Chadwell.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:41 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Who would arky fans want?
majority of Arky fans are idiots, so they wait for instructions
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:44 am to weremoose
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8&4 average is about right. Don't miss a bowl more than once per decade. Contend for the West at least once per decade. (Or whatever will be comparable in the new format)
1998 Arkansas 9–3 6–2 T–1st (Western) L Florida Citrus 17 16
1999 Arkansas 8–4 4–4 3rd (Western) W Cotton 19 17
2000 Arkansas 6–6 3–5 5th (Western) L Las Vegas
2001 Arkansas 7–5 4–4 3rd (Western) L Cotton
2002 Arkansas 9–5 5–3 T–2nd (Western)[n 2] L Music City
2003 Arkansas 9–4 4–4 4th (Western) W Independence
2004 Arkansas 5–6 3–5 3rd (Western)
2005 Arkansas 4–7 2–6 4th (Western)
2006 Arkansas 10–4 7–1 1st (Western) L Capital One 16 15
2007 Arkansas 8–4[n 3] 4–4 3rd (Western) Cotton[n 3]
Seems you had the guy and fired him
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:46 am to ruffleforeskin
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Why doesn't Ark recruit Texarkana? Right on the border and they produce like seven or eight 4 and 5 star players every year.
No they don't
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:51 am to No Colors
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When Lane picked Ole Miss over Arkansas....
you have no idea how that happened
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:52 am to Gunga Din
Pine Bluff was a powerhouse under Marion Glover back in the 90s.
Pine Bluff has been in a significant population loss for decades.
Pine Bluff has been in a significant population loss for decades.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 11:54 am to dchog
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The problem is the public school system sucks with poorly coached and developed teams. Arkansas is way behind many states who get every ounce of talent from these high schools.
Go lay down Wally Hall
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:04 pm to deltaland
Nutt went 18-16 with McFadden and other first round draft picks on both sides of the ball.
He was going to get fired in 2008. AD Frank Broyles was headed for retirement and he said publicly that was going to be a problem for him.
So he looked for jobs after the 2006 season and before the start of the 2007 season, he had an agreement with Ole Miss that he would be the next head coach.
So at 10 seasons in, if you can't win an SEC with that amount of talent then you will never will.
It also didn't help that his personality stepped on the toes of many hog fans and it helped create some drama in his last two years.
He was going to get fired in 2008. AD Frank Broyles was headed for retirement and he said publicly that was going to be a problem for him.
So he looked for jobs after the 2006 season and before the start of the 2007 season, he had an agreement with Ole Miss that he would be the next head coach.
So at 10 seasons in, if you can't win an SEC with that amount of talent then you will never will.
It also didn't help that his personality stepped on the toes of many hog fans and it helped create some drama in his last two years.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 12:50 pm to deltaland
I was neutral on that subject. But Dale was a goober and a half. I don't know if he could have maintained it in the social media age.
In reality, Jeff Long fricked us when he fired Bobby.
In reality, Jeff Long fricked us when he fired Bobby.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:39 pm to Jon Ham
Pittman would've been fired if Lashlee had been willing to listen. But he wasn't, so...
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:46 pm to Jon Ham
Arkansas has a long and illustrious history of hiring the wrong coach when better were available, at that time.
Coaches interested at one point but not hired: Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Butch Davis, Gus Malzahn
Coaches hired instead: Ken Hatfield, Jack Crowe, Danny Ford, Houston Nutt, Bret Bielema
The only notable exception to this self inflicted pattern is Bobby Petrino.
Passing on the right coach for non football reasons is in Arkansas’ DNA. Before everyone tears down the should have list remember it’s at that time. Yes Butch and Gus kind of flamed out, but they had strong runs in the years after Arkansas could have hired them.
I’m not sure who else was interested in the job for Morris and Pittman so no commentary.
Arkansas can compete at a strong level, but they just get in their own way.
Coaches interested at one point but not hired: Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer, Butch Davis, Gus Malzahn
Coaches hired instead: Ken Hatfield, Jack Crowe, Danny Ford, Houston Nutt, Bret Bielema
The only notable exception to this self inflicted pattern is Bobby Petrino.
Passing on the right coach for non football reasons is in Arkansas’ DNA. Before everyone tears down the should have list remember it’s at that time. Yes Butch and Gus kind of flamed out, but they had strong runs in the years after Arkansas could have hired them.
I’m not sure who else was interested in the job for Morris and Pittman so no commentary.
Arkansas can compete at a strong level, but they just get in their own way.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:54 pm to Fletch1985
Orville Henry is furious.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:03 pm to Pastor Mike
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They've already checked into Gus' buyout at UCF. Waiting a year saves them a bundle on both - Pittman and Gus
Hiring Gus would be a bigger nail in the program's coffin than what keeping Pittman is.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:10 pm to Jon Ham
Pittman is a moron, but so is most of the Arkansas fan base.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:20 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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When Lane picked Ole Miss over Arkansas....
you have no idea how that happened
Well, first of all: it happened
Second: how do you know what I know about the situation? Come tell us all what happened if you think I'm wrong
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:43 pm to Fletch1985
The NCAA put Oklahoma State on probation that goes back to 1979 when Johnson was the coach. They also put Oklahoma on severe probation in 1989, a year Switzer left Oklahoma.
Ken Hatfield was a much safer hire and not near as shady as the other two.
Arkansas should have fired Nutt after 2005 and hired Butch Davis. But all that talent on 2006 and 2007 was wasted.
Ken Hatfield was a much safer hire and not near as shady as the other two.
Arkansas should have fired Nutt after 2005 and hired Butch Davis. But all that talent on 2006 and 2007 was wasted.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:48 pm to dchog
Arkansas could easily hire a Jeff Traylor type and improve the results of the program.
Pittman is an atrocious in-game coach and will be a lame duck next year.
Pittman is an atrocious in-game coach and will be a lame duck next year.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:49 pm to No Colors
Yes when did that happen?
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:56 pm to Fletch1985
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Arkansas can compete at a strong level, but they just get in their own way.
They may get in their own way, but no, Arkansas cannot compete at a strong level. Not in this newer version of the SEC.
Since Texas A&M and Missouri joined the SEC in 2012, only Vanderbilt has a worse SEC record. Arkansas is 24-73 for a .247 winning % in SEC play since 2012. A&M and Missouri joining took away their ability to get kids in those states that wanted to play in the SEC.
With Oklahoma & Texas joining next year, Arkansas literally has no recruiting base to be able to compete in this league.
Can they play teams tough and pull the occasional upset? Sure. But, they are not going to be able to be able to compete at a strong level no matter who the coach is with their extremely weak recruiting base.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 2:57 pm
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