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Posted on 9/27/13 at 8:16 pm to Cheese Grits
What exactly does any of this have to do with this year?
Posted on 9/27/13 at 8:22 pm to FootballNostradamus
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What SEC team is a dominant, physical football team? Florida is the only team with a dominant defense, and their offense is an abortion. The SEC this year is far from some "grown man football" league.
If you say so. I mean, I guess the SEC could be a bunch of pansy arse teams. Doesn't really say much for Clemson I guess. I thought Clemson beat a pretty damn good Georgia team with a physical running game and some young but talented athletes on defense.
I think once these defenses grow up and gel a little we'll see the SEC return to form. There's not a dearth of talent, only a dearth of experience. Once these "green behind the ears" 1st year defensive starters get their asses chewed enough they'll play assignment football and the SEC will still on the whole play a better brand of defense than anywhere else.
Just my opinion. The Pac-12 and ACC have very legit teams that would compete in the SEC as well. I like the SEC as a whole when talking pure physicality... which doesn't necessarily mean "better" football.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 8:31 pm to Cheese Grits
Stanford and Oregon both look pretty good this season. Only the best SEC teams can (and will) beat either one this season.
LSU, BAMA, TAMU, and possibly UFLA can handle their offenses. Its an off year for SEC D, but the offensive firepower is on par with any west coast team. I am looking forward to seeing our best match up with theirs in the BCS Bowls.
LSU, BAMA, TAMU, and possibly UFLA can handle their offenses. Its an off year for SEC D, but the offensive firepower is on par with any west coast team. I am looking forward to seeing our best match up with theirs in the BCS Bowls.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 8:37 pm to Cheese Grits
Why so insecure? And why cite results from years gone by to discuss how good Stanford is this year?
Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:47 pm to Mohican
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If you say so. I mean, I guess the SEC could be a bunch of pansy arse teams. Doesn't really say much for Clemson I guess. I thought Clemson beat a pretty damn good Georgia team with a physical running game and some young but talented athletes on defense.
I don't think UGA is anything special this year. Clemson should and did beat them, but it wasn't some "shock the world" victory. It's overhyped simply because Clemson typically failed, but the game went about how I expected, probably a little closer than I expected actually.
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I think once these defenses grow up and gel a little we'll see the SEC return to form. There's not a dearth of talent, only a dearth of experience. Once these "green behind the ears" 1st year defensive starters get their asses chewed enough they'll play assignment football and the SEC will still on the whole play a better brand of defense than anywhere else.
That's the difference. Stanford and Oregon are talented AND experienced. I know you don't think there is talent outside of the SEC, but you should really look at Stanford's front seven. It is absolutely loaded with talented upperclassmen.
In normal years I'd agree with you for the most part, but this year is different. Stanford and Oregon can compete with anyone in the SEC and they'd sodomize over half the league.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 9:58 pm to Cheese Grits
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While not perfect, here are the comparables
If 2012 Stanford = 2012 Notre Dame, then 2012 Alabama > 2012 Stanford
If 2012 Stanford = 2012 Washington, then 2012 LSU > 2012 Stanford
Sure. Ok.
As many posters above have asked, what does that have to do with 2013?
If Stanford (or Oregon) is a fraud, they will be exposed. UCLA or Washington and maybe even Southern Cal might do it. If not, then the SEC Champion will very likely get a chance.
Is it that Stanford and Oregon are both currently in the Top 5 and ahead of LSU/UGA/A&M/SCAR that sparked this thread?
Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:04 pm to LSU1NSEC
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Stanford looks pretty damn good to me.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:12 pm to FootballNostradamus
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I don't think UGA is anything special this year.
You beat them by 3 points in the biggest game in decades at your stadium under the lights with one of the more outstanding home field advantages I've seen outside of Tiger Stadium in years. If Georgia is not that special then that says more to me about Clemson than anything else.
If Georgia is not that special, and Clemson is, then there should have been a LSU-VaTech '07 type arse stomping from Clemson. Actually, no, Vatech was pretty special that year so scratch that.
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That's the difference. Stanford and Oregon are talented AND experienced. I know you don't think there is talent outside of the SEC, but you should really look at Stanford's front seven. It is absolutely loaded with talented upperclassmen.
You don't know shite about me. I have time after time acknowledged other conferences. I am a college football fan, not an SEC fan. But I'm also not going to sugar coat anything or placate to other conference fans. There are plenty of teams outside the SEC that would compete in the SEC, there's just several of those caliber teams in the SEC.
Oregon is a badass team. Stanford is great. FSU and Clemson. But once again, at the end of the year, when these SEC teams have "grown up," we will see the talent begin to showcase itself as these guys learn to play assignment football. Let's see FSU not get physically dominated at the end of the year by Florida such as last year. Let's see Clemson handle USC's front 7 at the end of the year when their young linebackers have grown up.
Or, you're right and this year is an anomaly with a bunch of soft teams and a dearth of talent. The recruiting services have just had a bad cycle.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 10:51 pm to Mohican
There is some good football being played by teams outside of Oregon/Stanford in the PAC. The league is strong right now.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:13 pm to FootballNostradamus
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What SEC team is a dominant, physical football team? Florida is the only team with a dominant defense, and their offense is an abortion. The SEC this year is far from some "grown man football" league.
If you don't think lsu is dominate physical team then you don't know football. Lsu's oline avg is 320lbs, with a 240 lbs beast running behind a 275 lb GROWN arse MAN. Our fb is bigger than all but two of Stanford's starting defenders.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
The poster was talking about the defenses. The poster was saying there isn't a complete team.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:17 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Still stinging from being a Missouri fan, huh? No tradition in any sport must be tough to live with, and causes you to post stupidity. Feel for ya.
Better a Missouri fan than a fan of a program built on the Aryan beliefs of Adolph Rupp. LINK
BTW, it's Friday. Doesn't Coach Calipari have some wins to vacate?
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:18 pm to Cheese Grits
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If Stanford is so great how come we never see them playing a SEC school to really know?
Good lord.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:18 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:It was shock the world. The UGA D is young and inexperienced, and it showed.
it wasn't some "shock the world" victory
South Carolina will do what need be done.
As to Stanford or Oregon sodomizing the SEC, you´re very wrong.
They´d do well, especially this year. There are four teams they´d sodomize.
They´d lose some games, as well.
Stanford is smart, they look like pros out there, the way they dominate what they´ve got to do, and do it. Their raw talent level isn´t on par, however.
This post was edited on 9/27/13 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:28 pm to Dandy Lion
After watching the LSU/Auburn game in New Orleans I can see why I see the stupid comments on here.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:31 pm to VerlanderBEAST
If you're successful at beating 4 or so from the SEC, then you're legit.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:38 pm to bisonduck
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The poster was talking about the defenses. The poster was saying there isn't a complete team.
Lsu's defense is good. The only time any team has had sustained drive against lsu is when lsu is up 3 tds and playing cover 2/3( depending on down and distance) with our 2nd and 3rd teamers get in. No team has had success against lsu's first team def. we aren't as good as last year but that defense was great. We aren't as deep as we are used to being, but our 1's are elite
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:49 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Oregon is on another level right now, this is their greatest team ever and it's not close. Mariota and De'Anthony Thomas are superstar athletes.
Maybe. fricking maybe. But y'all mother frickers have cried wolf one too many times. Sit on one until they prove it.
Posted on 9/27/13 at 11:51 pm to Cheese Grits
Alabama is working on a centennial game with them for 2027-28.
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