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re: Solely about football. Are SMU and Texas Tech more desirable coaching jobs than Arkansas?

Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:13 pm to
Correct and the best football programs in the nation get the best players from across the country and don't just rely on one state.

Arkansas historically has had to depend on the far majority of recruiting from out of state but that didn't keep them from being a solid program.

The topic itself is beating a dead horse.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 10:19 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 10:44 pm to
4 star.

Another example is former 4 star Felix Jones out of Tulsa.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:17 pm to
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Wasn’t this the same conversation this board had about TCU a few years ago?

NIL and transfer rule change just came out 2 years ago. Now you are seeing the huge jump. Even Mizzou made a huge jump too. TCU isn't Texas Tech and SMU. Those two actually n add huge changes. TCU really didn't keep up with the rest of the top football programs.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 11:21 pm
Posted by Clark14
Earth
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:23 pm to
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NIL and transfer rule change just came out 2 years ago. Now you are seeing the huge jump. Even Mizzou made a huge jump too.


Those things may have helped you some but the huge jump happened when drink handed over the coaching responsibilities to his assistants. He was on y’all’s hot seat before then.
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
USA
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:28 pm to
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Texas Tech is spending money like crazy and their football facilities can compete with anyone.


Dude please stop. Have you even been to Lubbock and seen the 60,000 capacity stadium? Last time I checked the tech tards were 24th or so in 2026 recruiting.

Arky is a much better job.

This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 2:10 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:52 pm to
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and transfer rule change just came out 2 years ago. Now you are seeing the huge jump. Even Mizzou made a huge jump too.


Those things may have helped you some but the huge jump happened when drink handed over the coaching responsibilities to his assistants. He was on y’all’s hot seat before then.

NIL and transfer rule change did save Drinkwtz from getting another 6-6 record or so. NIL and transfer rule change is why Mizzou went 10-2 and 9-3 in the last two years. Plus beating OSU in a NY6 bowl game is Mizzou best bowl win in Missouri history.
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 12:27 am
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 11:55 pm to
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Now do Auburn.


What do you mean? Auburn doesn’t have a football program anymore.
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3318 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 3:22 am to
Arkansas pays $2 million more per year, so is that more desirable? Absolutely!

Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 10:26 am to
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The topic itself is beating a dead horse.


Arkansas was a dead horse when Pittman arrived.

Now he has won 3 bowl games and is a team on your schedule that you can't look past.

The SEC on your jersey is a step up from an occasional glimpse of quality football.
Posted by swinetime
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 10:40 am to
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Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:50 pm to
Mike Anderson didn't have a losing season at Arkansas and was still fired.

Playing in these glorified scrimmages doesn't bring excitement to the fans.

The 2014 Texas Bowl win against Texas brought more optimism than the crap we are seeing now.

Arkansas hasn't had a meaningful bowl win since the 2012 Cotton Bowl.
Posted by Csmims
A sandy beach in paradise
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 2:10 pm to
Tell us you know nothing about the history of Arkansas football without telling us you know nothing about the history of Arkansas football. Pathetic.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3097 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 3:50 pm to
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This is only about football. Both SMU and Texas Tech appear to be more financially committed to winning than Arkansas.



For a coach, each place has unique advantages. And each place has some disadvantages.

Tech/Lubbock is hard living but has some money guys who have Tech athletics at the top of their priority list.

SMU/Highland Park/Dallas gives a coach a chance to live and recruit to a school in the poshest areas of one the biggest fancy schmancy cities in the country with plenty of power brokers. Problem is it is actually too country club and the program doesn't really have a T-shirt fan base to boost its appeal. isn't probably in the top four schools in terms of fans even it's own metro.

Arkansas/Fayetteville. Nice place to live. Pretty area and large enough now that it isn't just a college town. Three or four monster companies who are a bit stingy with the money any more. One the one hand a coach has a huge advantage at Arkansas compared to the other two spots by being in the SEC. And on the other hand, a coach has a huge disadvantage by being in the SEC.

Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 4:03 pm to
Nebraska became a blue blood by finding loopholes in the system that wasn't illegal by the NCAA for decades.

Arkansas is not a proactive but a reactive program that waits on something to happen then proceeds to act in response instead of getting in front of the always changing landscape of college football.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
18678 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 4:07 pm to
I think you’ve answered your own question….. correctly. Sad piggy has to be that way
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18296 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Auburn doesn’t have a football program anymore.

Would Auburn have hire Drinkwitz in the same year that Missouri interviewed him? I am still puzzled to why Auburn hired Brian Harsin over Drinkwitz even though Harsin had a lot more HC experience over Drinkwitz. Lucky Missouri AD that time didn't mess up the hiring of a HC.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:29 pm to
No one wants drink now, why?
Posted by Hogo Stiglitz
Rogers
Member since Jun 2021
181 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:35 pm to
Are they more desirable? At the moment yes, in the grand scheme of things no.

Arkansas has a problem in its leadership. Until thats addressed it's going to be more of the same that we've all seen the past 14 years.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6407 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:37 pm to
As of right now they're more desirable coaching jobs than a majority of the SEC (including UF). Especially SMU.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18296 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 5:38 pm to
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No one wants drink now, why?

What?! I feel sorry for you and for your football program. Drinkwitz is happy to be the Missouri HC. He could have left for a top football program but he chose not to. Why leave when he is winning football games and is happy. Plus his family lives near by.
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 5:46 pm
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