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re: So You Believe Some Referees Are Intentionally Altering Games?

Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:53 pm to
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How do you explain so many people believing that the outcome of some games are predetermine? It especially seems to be a wide spread belief in regards to the NFL. Do all these people have schizophrenia?

There are just too many inexplicably bad calls, or obvious missed calls, that seem to consistently benefit the team with the larger TV market to chalk it up to coincidence. But the idea of a league influencing results is a totally different subject than corrupt refs. Interestingly, in the NBA scandal it came out that league officials had instructed officiating crews on how to call certain playoff games (let em play vs. blow the whistle on any contact). This could obviously favor one team over another based upon style of play.

In SEC games, you constantly hear about the league’s officiating office putting an emphasis on certain rules. There is no doubt that league offices do give referees marching orders. The motivation behind this is the only thing up for debate.

But back to corrupt officials/referees being paid off, I absolutely believe it happens. I don’t know how widespread it is, but I bet it happens more than we would want to believe.



Not necessarily clinically paranoid schizophrenic, but closer to being on the spectrum or being somewhere on the spectrum. It's basically the way that different brain chemicals interact with each other and communicate with each other.

Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20367 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:08 pm to
Conspiracy theorists have a pretty good record lately.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8254 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:20 pm to
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Conspiracy theorists have a pretty good record lately.



I agree. QANON and all of its satanic child blood drinkers and JFK rising from the ashes really knocked it out of the park. How that Storm work out for you?
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4930 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:51 pm to
I think if Donaghy had tried to pull that off today, he would have gotten nailed pretty quickly. Too many high definition camera/angels and too many analytical tools to see when a ref goes against their tendencies, especially in big games where there is a lot of money being bet. Throw in some AI that may start analyzing calls and there will be very few ways to hide putting your finger on the scale.
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Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
1231 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:57 pm to
Seems like with instant replay it'd be tough to do, right? But I guess there are penalties (e.g. a BS holding call or whatever) that can negate points.

So yeah the more I think about it it's hard to imagine that the wise guys haven't gotten to a few refs.
Posted by LafTiger
Member since Dec 2008
1569 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:07 pm to
1. many times it's not about what IS called...it's about what Isn't.

(look at the punt block that should have been called back, certainly made sure the cocks we're getting inside the spread)

2. Don't go all the way back to 2007....Look at Bama's baseball coach betting against his own team to lose to LSU a couple years ago...think that was the only thing he was doing that was shady? Most likely not...
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:14 pm to
Its pretty naive to think it has never happened. Its also probably not very common.

Some of the roughing the passer calls this past weekend are strangely familiar to fans of the NFL though. The NFL is straight up entertainment and QBs are the leading men. Protecting the leading man is a mainstay in pulp entertainment. CFB was different....most QBs are barely able to take a snap, if they got their head taken off no one used to would have noticed for the most part....but there seems to be a move to adapt the NFL take on roughing the passer. When a lousy QB who is not remotely close to the face of the franchise is given the Tom Brady protection (or Michale Jordan for NBA fans) CFB is beyond redemption. Pro sports are already nearly as fake as pro wrestling. It seems we are seeing a transition in CFB.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20576 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:14 pm to
I dunno, I would have said the refs had money on LSU, but then they blew an easy call for a catch that got overturned on appeal. That crew was just flat horrible and blew calls both ways after I went back and watched the whole thing. Worst officiating I ever saw.

I think they just don’t know the rules anywhere near as well as they should. If you watch Josh Pate’s podcast from yesterday he goes off on officiating in general. I couldn’t believe calls that were made, especially on roughing the passer.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87073 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:19 pm to
I think Week 1 Big 12 refs absolutely let USC hold on multiple TD's
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16081 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:21 pm to
I think they all passively or indirectly have Vegas on their mind.

You will always look more competent by telling your crew to only flag what they know they saw. Let the teams play by only calling the obvious, make them establish themselves down or oobs

Sit on your flag until the players make you flag them.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10887 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:38 pm to
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So You Believe Some Referees Are Intentionally Altering Games?


I listened to a podcast with this guy telling his story. It was wild.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
1782 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:43 pm to
Yes
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71845 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:46 pm to
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So You Believe Some Referees Are Intentionally Altering Games?

The broadcast company that keeps many programs afloat via TV deals, covers news, breaks stories, and covers games also owns and operates a sportsbook on which they set lines and take bets on the very games they cover.

That is the very definition of "conflict of interest".
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
3457 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:52 pm to
Arkansas at Florida, 2009. No one can watch those calls and think there wasn’t/isn’t some kind of nefarious shite afoot. A bad call here and there will happen. But that game was absolutely set up
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:03 pm to
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Arkansas at Florida, 2009. No one can watch those calls and think there wasn’t/isn’t some kind of nefarious shite afoot. A bad call here and there will happen. But that game was absolutely set up



I still remember that game for the bad officiating that was going on. A friend and I watched it at an airport terminal waiting on a flight. That game is the poster display for crooked officiating. To my knowledge the SEC never offered up any explanation for what happened on the field.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54104 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:22 pm to
even the south carolina players are criticizing refs
maybe need to fine players NIL money
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
31445 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:28 pm to
If true and you know it's true, then why watch and bitch about it constantly?
Posted by Reece Bobby
Member since Sep 2024
397 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:52 pm to
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NOPD Vice for 25 yrs, the majority of his focus in his last 10 yrs was illegal gambling.


Yeah this is what I want NOPD pooling their resources on to fight instead of car jackings, murders etc
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20367 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 4:01 pm to
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How that Storm work out for you?


Better than your Covid vaccine and 9 boosters.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
29029 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 4:05 pm to
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there's a YouTube channel that is dedicated to analyze the shenanigans

I'm probably going to regret this, but can you give us a link, or embed one of their more recent vidyahs?
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