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So How Does Bama Get The Best Players Year After Year?

Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:57 am
The increase in recruiting coverage has turned many of today's top recruits into prima donnas, and almost every major program has to deal with players who want special considerations (a starting job, an offer for a buddy, the coach has to sleep over, etc.) to sign. Even traditionally powerful programs have last minute decommits and deflections from players who are treated like the next great superstar before a single college snap. '

But somehow not only does Bama select the players it wants, but those players willingly wait their turn in a (long in some cases) line of former 4 and 5 star players to get a chance to play. As Steve Spurrier said, at most places you can only get a few studs signed up before the next crop looks elsewhere just to get maximum playing time and exposure.

What is it about modern Alabama that allows them to treat players differently and pay no penalty for it? How come every other program has to sell on the chance to get to the NFL, when just due to playing time Bama is successful selling the opposite?

I know people will say cheating, or kids want to be winners, or some simple answer but I can't see how it's that simple. Too many kids from too many places, too many backgrounds, sign up to ride the bench until Nick says they are maybe ready. Just as important why can't other programs successfully negative recruit against Bama just based on the roster alone?

Thank you in advance for any serious responses.
Posted by CGMDD
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:58 am to
You must be new here.
Posted by aspiclark
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:58 am to
because we the goat, son.
Posted by OMapologist
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:00 pm to
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prima donnas


*pre madonnas you dumb dumb
Posted by DesignTiger
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
You don't pick Bama, Bama picks you.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
You don't pick Bama, Bama picks you.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
There's now a consensus in the media that Nick Saban is the greatest college football coach of all time. It's a big deal. The way the program is run right now when you look at the whole package is truly a cut above any other program in the country. It's Alabama, and then everyone else. Kids can see that, and want to be a part of it.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:02 pm to
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Just as important why can't other programs successfully negative recruit against Bama just based on the roster alone?



Because our guys have a pretty proven track record of teaching kids how to play the game the right way, learning and then taking their spot in 2-3 years, excelling in our system and then being drafted and playing in the NFL. We have an excellent staff, the best coach in the country and a proven track record of putting highly talented kids in the right position to succeed in college and men and players and take that on to the NFL (and make lots of money). We not only have a history if signing great players, we have a history of developing their talents. Not to mention our guys generally learn how to handle themselves in public and become men. It's corny, but it is true.

On top of that, they get to win. A lot.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Aman
Alabama
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:02 pm to
Bama wins and wins big. Saban gets you to the NFL and it is BS that freshman never play at Bama.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Bama wins and wins big.


Sure, but he is also famous for processing kids. If I was a five star dreaming of the NFL there are plenty of programs that are pipelines to the league that don't have the same risks as Bama.

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it is BS that freshman never play at Bama.


I never said it never happens, but the reality is that the Bama roster is loaded so kids who would start day one at other programs have to wait years to play at Bama.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:07 pm to
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famous for processing kids


Not anymore than any other school the last 5 years. We have kids transfer in and out like everybody else.

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I never said it never happens, but the reality is that the Bama roster is loaded so kids who would start day one at other programs have to wait years to play at Bama.



Kids want to come in and compete. Our entire program is based on competing at everything you do. So, kids come in knowing that they are going to have to compete from day 1, and if they do what they are supposed to they will earn playing time, win and develop.
Posted by aspiclark
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Sure, but he is also famous for processing kids. If I was a five star dreaming of the NFL there are plenty of programs that are pipelines to the league that don't have the same risks as Bama.
but that's not how 5 stars think for the most part. they know they're the shite. they aren't afraid of competition. they want the glory that comes with being the GOAT.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:08 pm to
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have to wait years to play at Bama.
Then you get to tell your kids one day I played for the greatest coach of all time on the greatest team of all time, won the National Championship, and went to the NFL.

That's a hell of a sales pitch and Bama can pretty much guarantee it at this point.
Posted by Cheeky Fellow
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Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:08 pm to
The biggest thing is that kids know that if they come to Alabama and do what they are supposed to then they have a great chance to develop into an early round draft pick in the NFL. Our track record is impeccable at pretty much every single position on the field.

I think everything else is just kind of 2nd tier interest items.
Posted by BamalaAnderson
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:09 pm to
I think a lot of times 2 years of lifting weights is a long term asset that some recruits have to understand. If freshmen play too early they may be more susceptible to injury. If these injuries linger then their "film" may not be as good as it needs to be for draft day when it arrives.

Young offensive linemen thrust into SEC competition before their shoulder strength is developed may be saddled with lingering shoulder issues.

I remember Gary Barnett firing his strength coach at Colorado over the rash of shoulder injuries of offensive linemen. The strength coach was the fall guy for Barnett player young offensive linemen.

Just my 2 cents worth.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:09 pm to
Serious answer?

(1) For starters, Saban. Look up Tuscaloosa's thread about Saban's SEC classes. Even in his time at LSU he was raking in top 3 classes and, as a couple of posters pointed out, that was before he got the reputation of being tGOAT. He's just really, really good at it.

(2) I think Bama does a really good job of identifying the players that will respond to the pitch they use. They aren't selling playing time. They're selling a chance to compete and show you're the best. Some players embrace that challenge and I think those are the types Bama targets - which is a double-positive for Bama in that the kids all expect the same thing when they arrive (no aTm-like drama) and they've got the type of attitude that readily buys into Saban's process.
Posted by Chris Warner
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:10 pm to
$$$.rec
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:11 pm to
Because Saban can walk into any recruits house, pop in the tape of the first round draft picks at that kid's position, and say, "That's our plan for you."
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:11 pm to
quote:


I never said it never happens, but the reality is that the Bama roster is loaded so kids who would start day one at other programs have to wait years to play at Bama.



For the very reasons you mentioned there are hundreds of recruits every year that wouldn't consider Bama, but there are plenty of great ones that want the structure and process that goes into a championship program under Saban.
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