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re: So - if Bama stalls, crashes and burns, who is the heir apparent? ...
Posted on 1/15/24 at 7:57 am to GoldenDawg
Posted on 1/15/24 at 7:57 am to GoldenDawg
Aren't we reaching out a bit, 'if Bama stalls, crashes and burns'?
What I'd really like to know is this:
... What happens when Georgia comes to Tuscaloosa at the beginning of next season - and somehow, someway gets beaten? You won't have Nick Saban to blame anymore, or will he 'magically' be calling the shots behind the scenes? What will be your thoughts on Kirby then?
What I'd really like to know is this:
... What happens when Georgia comes to Tuscaloosa at the beginning of next season - and somehow, someway gets beaten? You won't have Nick Saban to blame anymore, or will he 'magically' be calling the shots behind the scenes? What will be your thoughts on Kirby then?
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Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:32 am to GoldenDawg
GEAUX TIGERS!!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:06 am to GoldenDawg
Tennessee, Texas, or LSU.
See you in 41 years, Dawgs.
See you in 41 years, Dawgs.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:11 am to GoldenDawg
Georgia, LSU and Omiss.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 10:45 am to GoldenDawg
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Possibilities for the next dominant SEC team:
Georgia and Texas are the two currently best poised to do so. Georgia was poised for a 3-peat of national titles before losing in the SEC title game, while Texas made the playoffs and Sark has that offense looking pretty good. Replacing as much as they are at the receiver position is not easy but it's not nearly as difficult as, say, replacing a QB.
LSU may or may not. If you feel that Alabama's domination was solely due to Nick Saban, then LSU's best run that coincides with Alabama being down (2000-2007) is mostly from years that Saban himself coached (2000-2004) and classes he recruited. If that's correlation or causation remains to be seen. They could definitely end up in that power spot.
The other teams you mention are definite maybes. I don't see Auburn getting away from their usual "flash in a pan" type of performance (random national title contender, couple with 8-win seasons and random losing seasons).
Tennessee was looking to be on the upswing but that remains to be seen. A little early to tell.
I have no idea how Oklahoma will do in the SEC. They've been great historically, but "not so great" when playing SEC teams in the postseason.
Ole Miss would be crazy. They do seem like they've been flirting with greatness here and there. Can Kiffin convince enough high end recruits to go to Oxford to compete with the Texases and Georgias?
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:25 am to captainFid
quote:Alabama's reign of dominance is over. A great coach put in place a great system and left everyone in the dust. Some other great coach may have a great system, but everyone is not going to sit and watch any more, they're going to try to replicate it.
Aren't we reaching out a bit, 'if Bama stalls, crashes and burns'?
I don't see one SEC team dominating anything, but I'm pretty sure Texas will be at the adults table.
Jay Hartzell, UT President on Sark
This under the radar announcement by the UT President is the equivalent of flipping the switch on the Death Star.
Complete alignment from Steve Sarkisian to Chris Del Conte to Jay Hartzell to Kevin Eltife; from the Head Football Coach to the Athletic Director to the President of the University to the Chairman of the Board of The University of Texas System (256,000 students, $43 Billion endowment). Yes, Texas Football is important.
Gone are the days of the fiefdoms and personal agenda's and pissing matches and ignorance of the various factions that advocate their "support" of UT athletics.
"...great to know we’re officially set for the future, but we’re going to need more gas ...??"
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:31 am to GoldenDawg
It's going to be a very interesting 5-10 years due to NIL and Transfer Portal.
I have been saying a while now, CFB will need to implement contracts to manage rosters better. The players are in fact employees now and this needs to be treated as such.
I have been saying a while now, CFB will need to implement contracts to manage rosters better. The players are in fact employees now and this needs to be treated as such.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:33 am to GoldenDawg
nobody
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:54 am to skrayper
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They've been great historically, but "not so great" when playing SEC teams in the postseason.
If by "post season" you only look at our performance against sec playoff teams, most of which went on to win the Natty, this is accurate. We've done pretty well against SEC teams in non-playoff post-season games.
We got pummeled by a Bama team and an LSU team in the playoffs, both of which were some of the best teams ever assembled at those schools. And that's all any of you remember, conveniently.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:43 pm to CharlotteSooner
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If by "post season" you only look at our performance against sec playoff teams, most of which went on to win the Natty, this is accurate. We've done pretty well against SEC teams in non-playoff post-season games.
We got pummeled by a Bama team and an LSU team in the playoffs, both of which were some of the best teams ever assembled at those schools. And that's all any of you remember, conveniently.
That's fair, but it was also in reference to OU having issues outside of Big 12 play in the postseason. The last big bowl game OU won was the 2017 Sugar Bowl against Auburn (who had gotten destroyed by Georgia in the SEC CG in their previous game), and I suppose the 2020 Cotton Bowl against Florida (though a good chunk sat out that game). That's not a defense of Florida, but rather a simple observation for the sake of being thorough.
So it'll be interesting to see if OU maintains their really good numbers as they did in the Big 12, or if playing some combo of Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Texas will then relegate them to a constant 8-9 win team instead.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 12:57 pm to geauxcoco
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So many people will benefit. The thing that is going to help LSU tremendously is the fact that Saban will not be recruiting the state of Louisiana anymore. So many teams he had over the years were littered with Louisiana players. And now Brian Kelly has put a fence up around the state and has made that a main priority. Saban had so many inroads with so many of the high schools in Louisiana due to his time here…., Deboer? it’s a huge win for us in that department.
That might be true as far as Alabama is concerned, but now we have Texas and A&M to deal with. Kelly hasn't entirely locked the state down. Hopefully that will change with the staff changes.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:47 pm to skrayper
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That's fair, but it was also in reference to OU having issues outside of Big 12 play in the postseason. The last big bowl game OU won was the 2017 Sugar Bowl against Auburn (who had gotten destroyed by Georgia in the SEC CG in their previous game), and I suppose the 2020 Cotton Bowl against Florida (though a good chunk sat out that game). That's not a defense of Florida, but rather a simple observation for the sake of being thorough.
So it'll be interesting to see if OU maintains their really good numbers as they did in the Big 12, or if playing some combo of Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, Ole Miss, and Texas will then relegate them to a constant 8-9 win team instead.
The big bowls we've played in recently were:
The Peach against LSU's super team.
The Orange against a Bama super team.
The Rose against Georgia (4OT game).
In all three of those games (Riley era) we went in as a 1-dimensional team with historically bad defenses, and the inevitable happened. That's the hallmark of Riley's teams because he's a Mike Leach cult alumni, and continues to be out at USC. That's why he's under heavy fire from L.A. sports media. They can see it.
When you play against a top echelon SEC team in the playoffs as a 1-dimensional team, you're gonna get destroyed, which we did (twice).
Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:49 pm to GoldenDawg
Don't let the Rebs get hot!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:51 pm to captainFid
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What happens when Georgia comes to Tuscaloosa at the beginning of next season - and somehow, someway gets beaten? You won't have Nick Saban to blame anymore, or will he 'magically' be calling the shots behind the scenes? What will be your thoughts on Kirby then?
It will be the refs. It's always the refs.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:55 pm to GoldenDawg
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anarchy
It’s pro sports now. Mediocrity will become the norm.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I have been saying a while now, CFB will need to implement contracts to manage rosters better.
If Lane wins anything of value in 24, a lot more programs are going to stop emphasizing HS coaches/kids and instead look to be the second stop for talented underclassmen.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:01 pm to Murph4HOF
“ University of the South has some unfinished business”
YSR!
YSR!
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:06 pm to GoldenDawg
UGA had already taken the crown from bammer. they're not the heir apparent but running the show right now
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:06 pm to Lucado
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Kelly hasn't entirely locked the state down.
Well, him getting the top ten instate this year in recruiting would suggest otherwise… most transfers he gets are from LA too….HS coaches are loving him here.
Posted on 1/15/24 at 9:20 pm to geauxcoco
Georgia obviously. The state produces more talent than any others besides Texas and California, which both have tons of competition and no true clear school which dominates. UGA has and will get pretty much anyone they want from in state and have built the rep to branch out at will.
I know we all love history but disregard that and look at it objectively and UGA is probably the best job in the country.
40 in state four and five star kids a year and the only ones you want but might not get almost every time are QB or RB position duplicates,
I know we all love history but disregard that and look at it objectively and UGA is probably the best job in the country.
40 in state four and five star kids a year and the only ones you want but might not get almost every time are QB or RB position duplicates,
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