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re: SEC Officials just can’t admit they screwed up.

Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:37 pm to
Fair enough. Probably should have known better.
Posted by Lightbringer1
The Land that Time Forgot
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:38 pm to
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Guillie indicated the play would have been viewed different had Herring stepped off the rubber. Herring threw the ball as a live pitch, which means it is a hittable ball and the catcher interfered by stepping in front of the plate without the ball.


You realize how dumb this sounds???

If he steps off in the middle of his pitch to then go home he’s probably not going to beat the runner, and there is like a 90 percent chance ump is going to call a balk. Which means if you call it this way it’s an unstoppable play.

If you send the runner and the hitter steps out of the box their is literally nothing the defense can do to stop the runner from scoring.
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8642 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:43 pm to
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There's been 100 replays and that is universally accepted


Well, not universally. SEC umpires don’t agree. Fans of schools other than LSU don’t universally agree.

Are you telling me he didn’t catch the ball before it got to the plate? Are you telling me the catcher’s glove isn’t in front of home plate?

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:50 pm to
Outside all of the interference talk, it's crazy that the runner never even touched home yet the officials don't seem to care.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:50 pm to
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If you send the runner and the hitter steps out of the box their is literally nothing the defense can do to stop the runner from scoring.


You realize catchers catch pitches all the time when runners are stealing a base? It is pretty common. And drama free. Because they don’t catch the ball in front of home plate. Because it is against the rules. All the catcher had to do was NOT move forward 3 feet until he caught the ball. He had plenty of time to catch the ball and make the tag. That would have been legal. Meeting the pitch in front of the plate was not. It is that simple.

The reason this is so rare is that most catchers catch the ball on a steal attempt without effing it up.
Posted by Lightbringer1
The Land that Time Forgot
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:56 pm to
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You realize catchers catch pitches all the time when runners are stealing a base?


When hitters are standing in the batters box
Posted by tiger lady
Baton Rouge, LA.
Member since Sep 2003
386 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:56 pm to
The batter had already stepped out of the batter's box so how can the catcher interfere with said batter who has stepped out of the box during the pitch?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8642 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:57 pm to
You are right. The batter should have stayed in the box and swung. That would have been much better for everyone but the catcher.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53430 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:09 pm to
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You are right. The batter should have stayed in the box and swung. That would have been much better for everyone but the catcher.


That would be actual interference then.

You can interfere with a batter who isn't even in the box, the batter should've automatically been called out right there.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8642 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:21 pm to
Most people seem to agree with you guys and gals. The SEC doesn’t. Their official position is that catching a pitch before it reaches the plate is interference.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/25/24 at 8:51 pm to
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Outside all of the interference talk, it's crazy that the runner never even touched home yet the officials don't seem to care.



That's the only part of the fiasco where they came close to following the rules. All runners advance on a balk/interference. Of course, it does raise the question of what happens if a batter hits a home run and just jogs back to the dugout rather than rounding the bases.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
1496 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:21 pm to
Tell me, where is that sec office again? And full of gumps showing their inability to get things right.
Posted by TDFreak
Dodge Charger Aficionado
Member since Dec 2009
7460 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:24 pm to
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If he steps off in the middle of his pitch to then go home he’s probably not going to beat the runner, and there is like a 90 percent chance ump is going to call a balk. Which means if you call it this way it’s an unstoppable play.
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If you send the runner and the hitter steps out of the box their is literally nothing the defense can do to stop the runner from scoring.

Precisely. If the SEC interprets it this way, the runner will always score and batter will take first.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10829 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:28 pm to
By rule the inning was over before the tag at home play even happened. The batter stepped out of the box before the pitch, which is a strike by Rule. And it was strike 3 with 2 outs.

Inning was over by rule before the play at home even happened.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28960 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:31 pm to
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Baseball umpires being shite Our idiot runner tried to steal home, was easily thrown out. Catcher was called for “interference” and a balk was called instead. Run scored, inning continued for an extra batter with South Carolina now leading 11-10. LSU walks it off with a 2 run bomb after all was said and done

Appreciate your candidness. Cool to see here rather than the usual.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73173 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:34 pm to
The whole problem could be solved by moving the offices and tourney out of Alabama. Sports corruption is in their blood in Alabama.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28960 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:37 pm to
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By LSU fans account of the steal here the batter should be able to swing and hit the catcher since it certainly counts as a ball or strike at home.

The batter stepped out of the box. Then catcher moved up for the catch without being in front of the plate.
By your logic a catcher can almost never stop a steal from third.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8642 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:50 pm to
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Tell me, where is that sec office again


Yep, the SEC has it out for LSU. Of course they do. Everyone there is an Alabama alum. Except for the vast majority that aren’t Alabama alums. Did you know there are even LSU alum that are employed in the SEC office?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9751 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:54 pm to
Jay Johnson said he’s never seen that call before. I’m sure just about every other coach could say the same thing. If it’s a flukey call, LSU is probably on the losing end of it 99% of the time.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
7380 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 9:58 pm to
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SEC Officials just can’t admit they screwed up.


Reminds everyone of this..........

"CFP Officials just can't admit they screwed up", in leaving Georgia out of the playoffs last season.

It's not just an SEC problem, you know.
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