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re: SEC Officials just can’t admit they screwed up.

Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10829 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:03 pm to
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I guess I am missing where they were wrong. The catcher can’t catch a ball on home plate thrown by the pitcher who is on the rubber. By LSU fans account of the steal here the batter should be able to swing and hit the catcher since it certainly counts as a ball or strike at home. Right or wrong? Granted I did not know about the rule an hour ago


2 things. First, the batter, seeing the runner start to home, stepped out of the box prior to the pitch being thrown before the play even happened. By rule that’s an out (actually counts as 2 strikes for some reason, but the result would have been the final out.)This is the critical one. If this rule had been applied, there would have been no need to even look at catcher’s interference.

Second, the catcher never stepped on or in front of home plate during the entire process and the runner had a lane to slide.

They ignored the first rule and then misapplied the second one.

This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 7:17 pm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96435 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:09 pm to
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Did you literally have a stroke during the press conference before he totally said that he was hoping for that exact call


Are we honestly implying that he intentionally had the runner attempt to steal home to blindly hope for a very specific scenario and ruling to occur in a tie game in extra innings

I don’t give a frick what he said, seeing Kingston coach the past few years I assure you he is not that smart
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:12 pm to
That's not the rule. Plenty have posted it in here, you should read more. Also, the batter was 10.feet away from home plate, so he wasn't swinging at shite. Dumbass.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:12 pm to
I thought the weirdest part was they called out, and then without any review, changed their mind ten minutes later.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:16 pm to
That's my thoughts as well. No way anyone of those dumbasses saw enough to overturn that.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:16 pm to
You are correct. The batter should have stayed in the box and let the catcher physically push him out of the way. Then we would have avoided all this drama.



Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:18 pm to
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You are correct. The batter should have stayed in the box and let the catcher physically push him out of the way.


I mean none of that came close to happening. I'm not sure you've actually watched the video with a response like that.
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
2615 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:19 pm to
Umps right.
Catcher blocked the plate before he got ball..knee leg touched plate..but not point spirit of rule is catcher can't block plate which he did..catcher in front or in back of plate plenty of room to make tag the plate is a foot by a foot basically..right call..geaux tigers
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:23 pm to
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That's not the rule. Plenty have posted it in here, you should read more


The SEC coordinator of umpiring disagrees with you.

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Guillie indicated the play would have been viewed different had Herring stepped off the rubber. Herring threw the ball as a live pitch, which means it is a hittable ball and the catcher interfered by stepping in front of the plate without the ball.


You may disagree with the rule, but the catcher caught the ball before it reached the plate. And that is universally understood to be catcher’s interference.

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:27 pm to
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which means it is a hittable ball and the catcher interfered by stepping in front of the plate without the ball.


He didn't step in front of the plate though. There's been 100 replays and that is universally accepted, even by the announcers.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6327 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:29 pm to
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Umps right.

The ump called him out. Why did they stop play to review a non reviewable call and who initiated it?
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8745 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:30 pm to
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I mean none of that came close to happening. I'm not sure you've actually watched the video with a response like that.


Not only did I watch the video, I even snapped a screenshot and posted it above your post. The video, and the screenshot, shows the batter bailing only after the catcher jumps up and begins lunging forward over the plate.

This could just be a close call that was called according to the rules. Or this could be the REC and the SEC sticking it to LSU.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:30 pm to
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The ump called him out. Why did they stop play to review a non reviewable call and who initiated it?


Called him out, teams went to dugout, TV went to commercial. They were basically about to start the next half inning when they decide change their mind on a non reviewable play. That can't happen and probably deserve some type of punishment in the manner of no postseason games for a year. It was truly incredible.
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6327 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:31 pm to
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You may disagree with the rule, but the catcher caught the ball before it reached the plate. And that is universally understood to be catcher’s interference.

Then why did the ump call him out, inning over?
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
2615 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:31 pm to
I'm guessing..challenge has to do with Birmingham checking video..any coach anytime can bbitch about a call and umps can change it but not go video evidence route
Posted by rtr23242526
Member since Dec 2022
2615 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:32 pm to
There was no review meaning checking video..
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6327 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:33 pm to
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Birmingham checking video

Nope. Non reviewable.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96074 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:34 pm to
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. The video, and the screenshot, shows the batter bailing only after the catcher jumps up and begins lunging forward over the plate.


Simply not true. The batter and Neal reacted simultaneously when they saw the runner breaking. Neal never came close to interfering with the batter as he was bailing out as Neal was coming out of his crouch. If you can't see that on video I really don't know what to tell you.
Posted by lctiger
Member since Oct 2003
3313 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:34 pm to
Never seen catcher interference called unless batter swings and hits catcher or his glove. This used to be common in youth ball as runners on third try to catch pitcher off guard and force a balk because the pitcher freaks out and stops his delivery. You have to teach them to step off then throw home. If runner breaks after pitcher starts delivery and he’s got home stolen all pitcher can do is plunk the batter and make it a dead ball. If batter bails out of box shouldn’t be catcher interference
This post was edited on 5/25/24 at 7:36 pm
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2676 posts
Posted on 5/25/24 at 7:36 pm to
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bbap


Bro, you are arguing with captdalton. That's like arguing with a democrat. His next argument will be that you are racist.
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