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re: SEC Media Poll Picks Florida

Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:07 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:07 am to
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think a big difference between Richt and Mullen is that Mullen can actually do something with elite level Quarterbacks


Yep. That 2008 uga Florida game was shameful. What a waste of Stafford that season was. That’s when I gave up on richt. Can’t wait until smart finally gets an elite QB of that stature. Gonna be very hard to beat uga when it happens.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:07 am to
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you lose your quarterback who the coach thought was better then Justin fields, and the offense improves. That’s like me saying LSU will have a better offense this year without burrow..



That’s like one of the dumbest comparisons ever dude. Any opinion from you going forward has been invalidated.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4332 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:16 am to
Georgia has and has had plenty of talent for at least a decade. They spend far more than anyone else.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:17 am to
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If all those are true it’s only be logical that those voting believe your head coach is the weak link on game days correct?


The media are playing the odds that a team wont win the division 4 years in a row. Injuries. Coaching turnover. Covid. Sheer luck. They are betting that 4 years in a row in the SEC is not very likely.

What they fail to see is that this team is more like 2017 than 2019.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:25 am to
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Can’t wait until smart finally gets an elite QB of that stature.

I mean Fromm was almost a 5-star, are we really playing the "wait till we get Vandagriff" game now until UGA can have a semblance of an offense?
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:26 am to
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Yep. That 2008 uga Florida game was shameful. What a waste of Stafford that season was. That’s when I gave up on richt. Can’t wait until smart finally gets an elite QB of that stature. Gonna be very hard to beat uga when it happens.


We already saw what happened.

He refused to play Fields.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:34 am to
By the way, I just have to point out the hilarity of everyone losing their mind that the media predicted UF to win the East.

Even Dan Wolken is white knighting for UGA
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:46 am to
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We already saw what happened.

He refused to play Fields.


In other words, it hasnt happened yet.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:50 am to
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In other words, it hasnt happened yet.


We're in Mullen's 3rd year, his teams are typically strong in the trenches (save for last year), and UGA fans in this thread have used 1 year to say his teams are "weak" in the trenches.

If you think I'm gonna post anything rational in this thread, you're kidding yourself
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11431 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:02 am to
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for anyone who actually follows these teams closely it's not even close who has better talent.


It is also obvious who has the better coaching staff and it ain't the mutts.

Gators take back the East in 2020!
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:11 am to
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UGA fans in this thread have used 1 year to say his teams are "weak" in the trenches.

Florida isn’t “weak” in the trenches on a national scale, but they have been far weaker than UGA in that department. Until Florida can generate a running game that threatens UGA, it’s going to be hard to win that game.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:26 am to
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Until Florida can generate a running game that threatens UGA, it’s going to be hard to win that game.


If the defense allows 1 or 2 less 3rd down conversions, last year could've been completely different.

PRetty sure you guys know that. That game was won due to UGA possessing the ball much longer than UF.

And I've always said last year is the biggest coaching disaster of Mullen's UF tenure in the UGA game.

Was a very winnable game and Mullen blew it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:29 am to
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If the defense allows 1 or 2 less 3rd down conversions, last year could've been completely different.

Could have been, sure, but relying on a one-dimensional attack to put up 20+ points against what will almost certainly be an extremely high level defense is not ideal.

Everybody always talks about Georgia’s offensive question marks, and with good reason. However, Florida also has to score on Georgia, and they’ve really struggled to do that primarily because they haven’t been able to move the ball consistently with minimal run game.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:36 am to
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Could have been, sure, but relying on a one-dimensional attack to put up 20+ points against what will almost certainly be an extremely high level defense is not ideal.

Everybody always talks about Georgia’s offensive question marks, and with good reason. However, Florida also has to score on Georgia, and they’ve really struggled to do that primarily because they haven’t been able to move the ball consistently with minimal run game.


2 years ago UF blew opportunity after opportunity to make that game close with Franks, and Franks self-destructed. That was even with a minimal run-game.

Last year, Trask didn't exactly have trouble moving the ball in the 1st and 2nd Q, even the 3rd Q, but MUllen repeatedly shot himself in the foot with stupid playcalling, which I have melted about numerous times on this board

So yes, even with a minimal run game the last 2 years, UF has been able to move the ball on UGA. Still need to score though.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:39 am to
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Still need to score though.

Indeed. Hard to do that without a credible running/PA threat when the field gets compressed.

ETA: UF had 278 total yards last year and 275 the year before.

Not exactly flying up and down the field.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:41 am
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:46 am to
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ETA: UF had 278 total yards last year and 275 the year before.


2018:

1) Franks missed wide open flee flicker for a TD on first drive, then Scarlett fumbled on a 3rd down conversion which he got the first down
2) 2nd drive, Franks ignores a wide open checkdown which would've got a 1st down and throws it right to a UGA defender
3) Mullen gets cute on 4th drive and puts Emory in on 3rd and 1, botches that drive and punts because EMory fumbles, after UF had grabbed the momentum in first half. Next drive, UGA goes down the field before halftime, and gets a FG.
4) 3rd Q - Franks fumbles on the goal line with lackadaisical ball security; to be fair, UGA made a good play on defense that led to this.

I could go on and on. Just weird, stupid shite where UF has repeatedly stepped all over itself, and 2019 had more of the same.

Mullen needs to get his head out of his arse in terms of playcalling against UGA, because being cute has cost UF big time.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:47 am to
Florida is the sexy pick this year because they have a returning QB and Georgia does not, plus
Georgia has a new OC. That is the sole reason for it. Georgia's D has not gone anywhere, in fact may be better this year.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:48 am to
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because being cute has cost UF big time.


Being cute is all you have when you are outmatched in the trenches.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:49 am to
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Indeed. Hard to do that without a credible running/PA threat when the field gets compressed.

ETA: UF had 278 total yards last year and 275 the year before.

Not exactly flying up and down the field.


Break those down by the first 3 quarters and the 4th quarter.

The Mullen offense is scary bad against Kirby defenses.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:50 am to
shite always happens in a game where you miss potential big plays. Literally in every game ever. They stick out especially when you’re playing a good team and are under pressure to convert as many as possible because the opportunities are fewer.

quote:

Mullen needs to get his head out of his arse in terms of playcalling against UGA, because being cute has cost UF big time.

He gets cute because he clearly hasn’t felt confident in running the ball.

Mullen has now struggled against Smart his entire career at both of their respective stops. That is unlikely to be some accident.
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