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re: SEC Media Poll Picks Florida
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:51 am to bunkerhill
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:51 am to bunkerhill
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Florida is the sexy pick this year because they have a returning QB
Best returning QB in the conference (incoming Bama and A&M fans...)
Best TE in conference, who is a mismatch
Returning 4 WRs with significant SEC experience
Experienced OL
Experienced back 7 with 2 consecutive great recruiting classes on defense.
I'm actually most worried about UF's DL, which feels weird.
I'm shocked this many people are outraged and hysterical over the media picking UF.
UF went 10-3 in 2018, 11-2 last year, and has both continuity and experience on its side in this weird season.
Doesn't seem like a bad pick at all.
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Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:54 am to Crowknowsbest
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Mullen has now struggled against Smart his entire career at both of their respective stops. That is unlikely to be some accident.
His "entire" career, basically 10 years at Miss State (again Miss State - which somehow seems to be glossed over by you guys in this discussion
) and 2 years at UF. If Mullen struggles again this year, I'll be more willing to accept that as a trend.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:59 am to boXerrumble
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His "entire" career, basically 10 years at Miss State (again Miss State - which somehow seems to be glossed over by you guys in this discussion ) and 2 years at UF.
He had Dak Prescott running the show for a few years and still struggled mightily. It’s not like the talent at UF is so overwhelming right now. It’s better, but not that much better.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:01 am to jodeaux
It'd be a shame if someone ruined that.
1-0 against the Gatas.
1-0 against the Gatas.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:10 am to Crowknowsbest
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It’s not like the talent at UF is so overwhelming right now. It’s better, but not that much better.
They get the nod from the media due to their schedule and our uncertainty at QB.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:13 am to RD Dawg
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They get the nod from the media due to their schedule and our uncertainty at QB.
I get that. I’m just discussing the matchup. Don’t really care about the media pick particularly.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:16 am to Crowknowsbest
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He had Dak Prescott running the show for a few years and still struggled mightily. It’s not like the talent at UF is so overwhelming right now. It’s better, but not that much better.
Compare the talent of Mullen at Miss State vs. what Smart/Saban had at Bama.
I'm sure Smart/Saban would have just as much success at Miss State as they had at Bama, since they are far superior.
EDIT: And Prescott was a 2/3 star recruit that Mullen developed. So thanks for pointing that out
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:18 am to BluegrassBelle
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1-0 against the Gatas.
I'd be lying if I said that UK game doesn't worry me, especially at that point in the regular season.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:19 am to jodeaux
Op sounds like this...
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:21 am to boXerrumble
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Compare the talent of Mullen at Miss State vs. what Smart/Saban had at Bama.
My point is that Smart has a very similar talent level at Georgia to what they had at Bama. Is Florida that much more talented than Mississippi State in the Prescott era to where they can be expected to score at the necessary level on Georgia/Bama?
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I'm sure Smart/Saban would have just as much success at Miss State as they had at Bama, since they are far superior.
Completely irrelevant.
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And Prescott was a 2/3 star recruit that Mullen developed. So thanks for pointing that out
He sure did develop him, and it made no difference.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:27 am to boXerrumble
I think you could argue Florida got hurt worse by the Covid freak out than anyone. They seemed poised for a big year and still may be. Trask is arguably the best returning starter right now. The one area Florida needs to improve is their running game and run defense. Those seem like the areas they got hurt last season.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:31 am to Crowknowsbest
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Is Florida that much more talented than Mississippi State in the Prescott era to where they can be expected to score at the necessary level on Georgia/Bama?
247 Talent Composite doesn't go all the way back to 2014, but looking at Prescott's last year at Miss State in 2015:
2015 Miss State - Ranked 28th
2015 Alabama - Ranked 1st
2020 Florida - Ranked 8th
2020 Georgia - Ranked 1st
So yes - UF is much more talented, and Mullen should be able to score more than 17 points, and frankly that is on him for not doing so in 2018 and 2019. I'll give him somewhat of a minor pass in 2018 because it was his first year at UF, but that coaching performance in 2019 against UGA was inexcusable.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:32 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:33 am to boXerrumble
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UF is much more talented, and Mullen should be able to score more than 17 points, and frankly that is on him for not doing so in 2018 and 2019.
You got a preseason number in mind that Mullen puts on the Dawgs this year?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:35 am to boXerrumble
I just don’t see the dynamic matchup problems to give UGA’s athletes major problems, outside of Pitts, to where I would really expect some high offensive output.
We probably aren’t going to agree on that.
We probably aren’t going to agree on that.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:36 am to meansonny
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You got a preseason number in mind that Mullen puts on the Dawgs this year?
Both UGA and UF have talented defenses, so frankly seeing a 20-17 game or a 24-21 game wouldn't be shocking at all.
I'm just simply saying UF should've had more than 17 points on 2018 and 2019 based on the opportunities in both games, and Mullen choked in both.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:40 am to Crowknowsbest
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I just don’t see the dynamic matchup problems to give UGA’s athletes major problems, outside of Pitts, to where I would really expect some high offensive output.
We probably aren’t going to agree on that.
Grimes was the number 1 ranked WR coming out of high school in his class.
Toney has given every defense fits; his problem is staying healthy.
Copeland has enormous potential, and actually was higher rated than Ja'Marr Chase.
In fact, Jacob Copeland was ranked 12th WR in his class and Justin Shorter was ranked 1st. Chase was 15th.
You guys love to see talent numbers, so I'm not sure what to tell you.
Unless you're simply saying - UGA is the best, has the most talent of anyone, and it doesn't matter what anyone else has, because UGA is better, and if this is the case, its no point arguing with you.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:42 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:44 am to boXerrumble
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Unless you're simply saying - UGA is the best, has the most talent of anyone, and it doesn't matter what anyone else has, because UGA is better.
I’m simply basing it on what I see on the field. All of these guys on both sides have a decent amount of film out there on them.
Do UF’s receivers, who are good players, really overmatch Stokes, Daniel, Campbell, Stevenson, LeCounte, etc.? I don’t think so, but you’re free to disagree.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:49 am to Crowknowsbest
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Do UF’s receivers, who are good players, really overmatch Stokes, Daniel, Campbell, Stevenson, LeCounte, etc.? I don’t think so, but you’re free to disagree.
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Seems like Trask had no issues targeting WRs against UGA's secondary when he had time. Tells me that UF's WRs had success against those players.
Really comes down to the OL protecting him.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:53 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Can you name the last National Champion who didn't have an elite Quarterback
You could make an argument for 2018 Bama given that Tua wasn’t elite yet and didn’t even start that season. But if not, 2015 Alabama - Jake Coker.
2014 Ohio State, 2012 Bama, 2011 Bama, 09 Bama, 07 LSU, 06 Florida, 03 LSU, 02 Ohio State.
So pretty much 50% of the national champs in the last 20 years haven’t had an elite QB. A much better point would be which NCs didn’t have a top 10 defense in the past 20 years.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:53 am to boXerrumble
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Tells me that UF's WRs had success against those players.
I’m not saying they won’t have success.
My original point was that UF needs some kind of complimentary running game. My point with the receiver matchups is that, without a running game, UF will need to generate a lot of yards and points through the air. That, IMO, would require overwhelming physical mismatches in the back end to succeed with enough consistency to feel good about winning, especially without a credible play action threat.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:54 am
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