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re: SEC Media Poll Picks Florida
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:56 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:56 am to Crowknowsbest
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My original point was that UF needs some kind of complimentary running game. My point with the receiver matchups is that, without a running game, UF will need to generate a lot of yards and points through the air. That, IMO, would require overwhelming physical mismatches in the back end to succeed with enough consistency to feel good about winning.
And my point is even without it last year, UF had very good chances to score more than 17, and Mullen fricked it up
I'm not sure why it isn't reasonable to expect UF's OL, which was young and inexperienced last year, is projected to be much better this year.
A lot of experts have said UF's OL should be a strength this year.
Going back to the OP... overall with the talent and experience returning, and continuity in the coaching staff, why is it so awful to think UF will win the East.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:57 am to boXerrumble
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why is it so awful to think UF will win the East.
I didn’t say it was
I’m just talking football
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 9:58 am
Posted on 9/24/20 at 9:58 am to Crowknowsbest
I directed my last sentence at the poster in the OP.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 11:43 am to boXerrumble
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And my point is even without it last year, UF had very good chances to score more than 17, and Mullen fricked it up
Have you seen the split stats for Mullen versus Kirby?
Yards and points in the first 3 quarters versus yards and points in the 4th quarter?
It is a 10 year trend. And it is ugly.
Kirby coaches circles around Mullen continiously. It honestly isnt close.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 12:24 pm to meansonny
Most of the time he was at Bama...you have to be boarderline retarded to think that was a remotely fair fight.
Then Mullen came to UF with vastly less talent by EVERY composite ranking. He closed the gap in two years enough to be viable. Kirby had a two year head start in Georgia, now Mullen has his talent replacing the three stars Mac left.
There is a reason so many think UF wins it. They watch football. They see Florida improving, and boy does it scare you. Now Florida has the same blue chip count as LSU and Auburn. Georgia has talent, but development seems to be an issue, especially on offense.
Then Mullen came to UF with vastly less talent by EVERY composite ranking. He closed the gap in two years enough to be viable. Kirby had a two year head start in Georgia, now Mullen has his talent replacing the three stars Mac left.
There is a reason so many think UF wins it. They watch football. They see Florida improving, and boy does it scare you. Now Florida has the same blue chip count as LSU and Auburn. Georgia has talent, but development seems to be an issue, especially on offense.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:33 pm to meansonny
So Kirby beating Mullen at Alabama as a defensive coordinator and at Georgia while he was at Mississippi State are indicative of Kirby's coaching prowess?
frick you guys are stupid.
He took over a mess at Florida, we had three Head Coaches in four years, and has closed the gap on Kirby quickly.
Blue Chip Count:
2020: 49
2019: 39
2018: 35
2017: 28
2016: 24
5-stars on Roster:
2020: 4
2019: 1
2018: 1
2017: 2
2016: 2
Not to mention the score went from being pretty much a blowout to being a single possession.
It's not like Orgeron and Kirby where Orgeron just regularly thumps Georgia and you guys have a coach who has been there for four years, has his players and still could have gotten a 50 burger if Orgeron wasn't such a nice guy.
frick you guys are stupid.
He took over a mess at Florida, we had three Head Coaches in four years, and has closed the gap on Kirby quickly.
Blue Chip Count:
2020: 49
2019: 39
2018: 35
2017: 28
2016: 24
5-stars on Roster:
2020: 4
2019: 1
2018: 1
2017: 2
2016: 2
Not to mention the score went from being pretty much a blowout to being a single possession.
It's not like Orgeron and Kirby where Orgeron just regularly thumps Georgia and you guys have a coach who has been there for four years, has his players and still could have gotten a 50 burger if Orgeron wasn't such a nice guy.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 1:48 pm to Gatorbait2008
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There is a reason so many think UF wins it. They watch football. They see Florida improving, and boy does it scare you
For fricks sake.There are only two reasons that you're favored. UF's schedule and uncertainty at the QB position at UGA.
Just STFU with the closing the gap bullshite.
Thank God for the transfer portal or you'd have how many 5 stars on your roster?
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especially on offense
Who "developed" Felipe Franks?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 2:29 pm to jodeaux
I think this is Florida’s year to win the East and maybe the conference. I see a team with upper classmen, a good defense, an efficient QB, and some talent at the skill positions. That’s a winning recipe in the SEC. I think they’re going to have to throw to open up the run, but I like Trask in that position.
Nobody’s beating Clemson, but I like this Gator squad a lot more than anything in a long time.
Nobody’s beating Clemson, but I like this Gator squad a lot more than anything in a long time.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 2:37 pm to boXerrumble
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I'm shocked this many people are outraged and hysterical over the media picking UF.
Me too.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:39 pm to jodeaux
Ehh you’ve won 3 straight I understand where you are coming from, but our entire staff plus QB are back. Along with a top 10 D. With your QB questions it’s not crazy to think we get you this year. I’ll have to see Daniel coach that game without his a-hole being tight first though. 3rd and Grantham all that. frick Georgia anyway.
This post was edited on 9/24/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:44 pm to TigerDog83
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think you could argue Florida got hurt worse by the Covid freak out than anyone.
A much better argument can be made otherwise
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:47 pm to boXerrumble
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not sure why it isn't reasonable to expect UF's OL, which was young and inexperienced last year, is projected to be much better this year.
But why besides “they played last year”?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 3:55 pm to djsdawg
Because generally players learn and improve one year from the next, which is why most teams like older depth charts rather than younger.
Time in the system + time to get better normally = progress.
They literally can't get worse.
Time in the system + time to get better normally = progress.
They literally can't get worse.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:06 pm to Mithridates6
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I heard that the SEC media has only picked the conference winner correctly seven times since 1992.
How is that possible?
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:23 pm to jodeaux
Sounds like the same poll that said Hillary by a lot.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:29 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Because generally players learn and improve one year from the next, which is why most teams like older depth charts rather than younger.
Athletic limitations tend to put a ceiling on improvement. I haven’t noticed anyone talking about an influx of OL talent across the board.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 4:47 pm to djsdawg
How is that a bad comparison.. Both teams lost quarterbacks to the draft. Your team thought your qb was sooooo good they wouldn't let a heisman finalist play. Now the successor to the quarterback your coach thought was better then fields quit on the team... So is this addition by subtraction?? Are you saying that your coach made the wrong calls on his two quarterbacks so thats how you are better? You make no sense and provide no evidence on how they could objectively be better. All this and throw in Covid limitatons and you get Georgia being a mediocre team with the pure SEC schedule.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:35 pm to djsdawg
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Athletic limitations tend to put a ceiling on improvement. I haven’t noticed anyone talking about an influx of OL talent across the board.
How much talent did South Carolina need? Or Georgia Southern with us? Talent isn't everything.
I know good coaching is an alien concept to Georgia where a couple injuries are a sufficient excuse for LSU beating you by 4 touchdowns at a neutral site, but there are so many different aspects of the game.
shite, Trask out threw Fromm last year behind that terrible offensive line and Fromm was more "talented" than Trask. The OL will be fine, they have experience.
Unlike Georgia Quarterbacks. Playing in the SEC is a little harder than playing in the PAC and holding a clipboard.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 7:49 pm to TheWhitemamba16
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How is that a bad comparison.. Both teams lost quarterbacks to the draft. Your team thought your qb was sooooo good they wouldn't let a heisman finalist play. Now the successor to the quarterback your coach thought was better then fields quit on the team... So is this addition by subtraction?? Are you saying that your coach made the wrong calls on his two quarterbacks so thats how you are better? You make no sense and provide no evidence on how they could objectively be better. All this and throw in Covid limitatons and you get Georgia being a mediocre team with the pure SEC schedule.
The whole Newman thing was one of the weirdest backtracks on the history of tRant.
So you're telling me you brought in "best QB in the SEC" Newman but it's okay, because Mathis is just so good that Newman had to quit? Or maybe Daniels, who had less time with the playbook?
Kirby is clearly desperate at the QB position and I honestly don't know how Georgia fans square this.
Posted on 9/24/20 at 8:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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shite, Trask out threw Fromm last year behind that terrible offensive line and Fromm was more "talented" than Trask.
Yeah. And Kirby and James Coley outcoached Mullen and Grantham last year in Jax by a wide margin. Even though, according to you gys, Mullen is the swellest coach that ever creeped his way around the swamp.
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Unlike Georgia Quarterbacks. Playing in the SEC is a little harder than playing in the PAC and holding a clipboard.
I guess the same could be said about Dan Mullen and coaching at a school with a chance at something more than 10 wins.
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