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re: SEC Champ 2018

Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:46 am to
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 10:46 am to
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And I will say that the RB was the most important position on Offense 10 years ago (Same with the NFL 20 YEARS ago). The game has evolved or rule changes have forced the emphasis on success to be on the QBs. I think the WRs are ahead of the RBs in importance in today's game.


A single SEC RB touches the ball 2-3 times as much as a WR in a game. Hell, Gus has been known to give his RB more touches than all of his WR/TE's combined in games.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Whichever team who has the best QB play will win the championship. The secondaries in this league will be challenged every week for the first time in years.


Running the ball and stopping the run. 9 times out of 10, that's how you win the SEC. Even when Cam and Tebow won it, that's how they did
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 4:47 pm to
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Running the ball and stopping the run. 9 times out of 10, that's how you win the SEC. Even when Cam and Tebow won it, that's how they did


IP firmly believes this is a QB game now and WR's are more valuable than RB's.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:01 pm to
What two teams played in the NCG last year?

The two teams who could best run the ball and stop the run.

Not Baker Mayfield's team, not Trace McSorely's team, not Sam Darnold's team, not Kelly Bryant's team, not Jarrett Stidham's team.

Jake Fromm and Jalen Hurts were the quarterbacks that made it.
Posted by ColoBama
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:06 pm to
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Whichever team who has the best QB play will win the championship. The secondaries in this league will be challenged every week for the first time in years.



Thanks for giving us the title already.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:08 pm to
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IP firmly believes this is a QB game now and WR's are more valuable than RB's.


Cam and Tebow both could throw the ball and had to in big games.
Colt McCoy got TX to the NC with his arm and a freshman QB almost beat Bama with his arm.
Bama beat LSU in the rematch because LSU couldn't throw. Bama had AJ McCarron and he didn't need much to beat ND.
Winston took FSU to a NC with his arm. He drove them the length of the field in less than one minute.
Jones led OSU in the Playoffs, especially when they played Bama and Simms could not throw a completion.
Kelley took Clemson to a NC and a runner-up position. People want to claim it was his legs, but his passing game made Clemson a contender (see Kelley this year for Clemson)
This past season, Mayfield took OU to the playoff with his arm and made them competitive on that alone. Bama was flopping around on Offense until they started throwing the ball. And UGA lost the Game because they couldn't throw the ball and Bama stopped the run.

So I stand by my post, that the future of College Football lies with the QBs and WRs.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 5:09 pm
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:18 pm to
Jacob Coker, Greg McElroy, Matt Flynn, Matt Mauck, and Craig Krenzel all also won titles.

If your argument is that teams have to be ABLE to throw then ball, well then no shite. Jake Fromm can throw the ball. He can do so quite well, as he demonstrated several times.

You certainly don't need a superstar quarterback to win the title. That's been proven over and over and over again.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:31 pm to
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Jacob Coker, Greg McElroy, Matt Flynn, Matt Mauck, and Craig Krenzel all also won titles.


The main reason was they played against teams with a similar philosophy. I think more teams are going to the pass and that is why I am saying the future is the QBs. Do not have to be a superstar, but you better be able to carry the team with your arm when needed.

Look at the trends in the High School ranks. Seven on Sevens are becoming more important to recruiting than any recruiting service. The game will continue to protect the QBs and WR with rule changes, and good Coaches will take advantage of those rules. We have seen it in the Pros the last 10 years. This is the first year in a long time where there are more than 3 decent passing QBs in the SEC.
This post was edited on 4/24/18 at 5:45 pm
Posted by General13
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Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:46 pm to
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completion. Kelley took Clemson to a NC and a runner-up position. People want to claim it was his legs, but his passing game made Clemson a contender (see Kelley this year for Clemson) This past season, Mayfield took OU to the playoff with his arm and made them competitive on that alone. Bama was flopping around on Offense until they started throwing the ball. And UGA lost the Game because they couldn't throw the ball and Bama stopped the run. So I stand by my post, that the future of College Football lies with the QBs and WR

You mean Deshawn Watson?

You might want it to be QB driven because Auburn has a good one this year. A dynamic QB can be all a team needs but running the ball and stopping the run has been and will be the key to success. There just isn’t enough dynamic qb’s available.

The sec looks to have the best qb play it’s seen in a while but it’s still going to come down to LOS and running the ball.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25588 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:53 pm to
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The main reason was they played against teams with a similar philosophy. I think more teams are going to the pass and that is why I am saying the future is the QBs. Do not have to be a superstar, but you better be able to carry the team with your arm when needed.

Look at the trends in the High School ranks. Seven on Sevens are becoming more important to recruiting than any recruiting service. The game will continue to protect the QBs and WR with rule changes, and good Coaches will take advantage of those rules. We have seen it in the Pros the last 10 years. This is the first year in a long time where there are more than 3 decent passing QBs in the SEC.


Ive got a ban bet pending.

You game?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 5:55 pm to
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You mean Deshawn Watson?


Yes, my typo.

quote:

You might want it to be QB driven because Auburn has a good one this year. A dynamic QB can be all a team needs but running the ball and stopping the run has been and will be the key to success. There just isn’t enough dynamic qb’s available.


No, I have been screaming for this a few years now, especially in AUs case. The fans would complain about the Offense and the playcalling (which was a problem), but the real issue was lack of QB Play. Teams pay OCs millions of $, when they should be investing in a quality QB Coach. It is one of the ways you can counter the recruiting of coaches like Saban. The QB is the great equalizer to a great D. A good one still gives you a chance.
Posted by Jazzbo Depew
Bug Tussle
Member since Dec 2017
1765 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:04 pm to
Self promotion ( bumping your own thread) on most sports message boards is customarily viewed by fellow posters as weak deportment. Just so's you know .
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25588 posts
Posted on 4/24/18 at 6:19 pm to
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Teams pay OCs millions of $, when they should be investing in a quality QB Coach.


The correct answer is to pay the OL coach.

UGA has a great one in Pittman. Maybe 1/3 of Smart's success is attributed to Pittman. Recruiting. Rushing attack. And QB efficiency in the red zone and on 3rd downs.
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