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re: SEC Champ 2018

Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:32 pm to
2014 was his last year
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:36 pm to
2015-2016 UGA was dependent on the running game.
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:39 pm to
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Did not say the running game would suck, just will not produce 2600 yard from two backs.


With 15 games played, that comes out to 173 ypg.

You act like that's some insane number that no backfield is capable of producing. I think our OL will be strong enough this year that any talent drop off (which I think will be relatively small because we've got gobs of talent in the backfield) will be offset by the holes we'll be carving through front 7's.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:40 pm to
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SEC Champ 2018


It's pretty much a given it'll either be UGA or bama
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 7:47 pm to
You did it last year against UT, Vandy , OU,Missouri, GT, and MSU. That is why you were able to protect Fromm. They could also lean on their D keeping the scoring down. Again, look at the two loses a nd you will see the key to beating UGA.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:01 pm to
So your point is we have a weakness? Sure, and teams knew that last year and couldn't shut it down with the exception of the three halves of football. But guess what, sometimes you have to win defensive games. You don't score 40 every week. The loss in the Bama game was due to failures on 2 or 3 plays, not an indictment on some fundamental flaw of how we operate. (Also, its fricking Bama!)

It's a damn hard formula to stop unless you can match it talent-for-talent, which only a handful of teams in the country can do with Georgia.

If we lose more games than we expect to next year, it will be because of lack of experience at inside linebacker and safety, not some sudden offensive implosion.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:04 pm to
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So your point is we have a weakness? Sure, and teams knew that last year and couldn't shut it down with the exception of the three halves of football. But guess what, sometimes you have to win defensive games. You don't score 40 every week. The loss in the Bama game was due to failures on 2 or 3 plays, not an indictment on some fundamental flaw of how we operate. (Also, its fricking Bama!) It's a damn hard formula to stop unless you can match it talent-for-talent, which only a handful of teams in the country can do with Georgia. If we lose more games than we expect to next year, it will be because of lack of experience at inside linebacker and safety, not some sudden offensive implosion.


No my point is Fromm will have to carry this team. They can not depend on two RB rushing for 2600 yards or this years Defense to protect any weaknesses on the other side of the ball. The schedule will protect them unless the other teams in the East improve (which I think they will) and they will have to play AU and LSU from the West. That is the summary of the last 8 posts.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:12 pm to
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They can not depend on two RB rushing for 2600 yards or this years Defense to protect any weaknesses on the other side of the ball.


We're talking in circles now, but that argument still hinges on Georgia's running game nose-diving, which is one HELL of an assumption given the talent - both proven and fresh - on the LOS and in the backfield.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:26 pm to
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Georgia's running game nose-diving, which is one HELL of an assumption given the talent


So anything under 2600 yards is a nose-dive? I should have stopped a few post ago.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:29 pm to
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So anything under 2600 yards is a nose-dive?


Is 2600 yards some magic number you have to hit to have a good offense? I didn't think going from 173 rushing yards per game to 150 would be the difference in 13-2 and 8-4 and the Liberty Bowl.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/21/18 at 8:37 pm to
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Is 2600 yards some magic number you have to hit to have a good offense? I didn't think going from 173 rushing yards per game to 150 would be the difference in 13-2 and 8-4 and the Liberty Bowl.


I will try this one more time. No magic numbers in rushing, but UGA used the running game to bring a Freshman QB along and not have to depend on him winning the game. They could run the ball and the clock., keep turnovers to a minimum and let the Defense control the game. Look at their loses against UA and AU, they tried that and when it was shut down they had to depend on Fromm. He didn't get the job done and they lost both of those games. He will have to carry the team this year because of the lost production in the running game and the overhaul of the D. I can not explain it any simpler. Maybe he has it in him.
This post was edited on 4/21/18 at 8:48 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32732 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 6:19 pm to
As they say, it’s all relative to your competition. Uga will still have one of the sec’s Best run games next year. Also, Next year will be our first season without a new qb starter since 2013.
Posted by jcljag
Mobile
Member since Dec 2007
713 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 6:30 pm to
I think the turning point was the Bama interception the play after we intercepted a Bama pass. It was 20-7. We had the ball somewhere around the Bama 40. We had momentum and I think we get atleast 3 points. Bama made the play and took over the game from that point
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25485 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 7:34 pm to
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Whichever team who has the best QB play will win the championship. The secondaries in this league will be challenged every week for the first time in years.


Leave it to an Auburn fan to not understand football or the southeastern conference.

The best team im conference is typically the best rushing team (fortunately for Auburn, that was them in 2010 and 2013)

And I don't mean running on 1st down. The best team running when the opponent knows that you will be running.

2017 conference stats: rushing TDs

Auburn fans have been in this conference for a long time. But they are too busy worrying about big brother/cousin to actually pay attention.
Posted by Paul B Ammer
The Mecca of Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 4/22/18 at 7:55 pm to
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I think the turning point was the Bama interception the play after we intercepted a Bama pass.


Fair enough. All those UGA fans who were all over their coaching staff for going conservative in the 4th quarter should remember this play.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:01 pm to
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Leave it to an Auburn fan to not understand football or the southeastern conference.

The best team im conference is typically the best rushing team (fortunately for Auburn, that was them in 2010 and 2013)



Leave it to a UGA fan to live in the past (37 years and counting). Both those AU teams had dynamic QBs and that was the difference. It was the same for UF with Tebow. College Football has become a QB league just like the NFL, but few teams in the SEC had elite QBs. Remember the UGA fans wants to be called RBU, but they do not have any NC to show for it in 37 years.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:18 pm to
Best defense will win as usual
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25156 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 8:31 pm to
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Whichever team who has the best QB play will win the championship. The secondaries in this league will be challenged every week for the first time in years.


I would change that to best passing game, not just the QB. Austin Allen had very legit talent at Arkansas but our O-Line was so terrible he took a ferocious beating every game. By the time we were solidly in SEC play he was so banged up he was a sitting duck.

I worry about post-concussion syndrome with the poor kid.

So, though he had great talent, he rarely got to show it.

A good QB, steady receivers, and a solid O-Line is going to be hard to beat. You can get by with just two of those three, but you are going to run into trouble sooner or later.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:05 pm to
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Best defense will win as usual



Is that what happened in the LSU-AU, AU-UA and UGA-AU (Nov) Games ?
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 4/22/18 at 9:06 pm to
OR we could just watch the games instead of having meaningless dick fights over it. There’s a thought
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