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re: Scott Frost Proving Tom Osborne's Greatness...
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:39 pm to fanmeister
Posted on 8/29/21 at 2:39 pm to fanmeister
They innovated in the offseason S&C space (steroids too) and used state academic scholarships to mask in-state signees from the NCAA scholarship counter.
Comprehensive drug testing and the preferred walk-on rule killed the Nebraska football program as a national power for at least the rest our lives. Maybe on an infinite timescale Nebraska will be relevant again but not for a long time.
Comprehensive drug testing and the preferred walk-on rule killed the Nebraska football program as a national power for at least the rest our lives. Maybe on an infinite timescale Nebraska will be relevant again but not for a long time.
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Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:04 pm to fanmeister
Nebraska is Red Tennessee. Both have forever lost the competitive advantages that gave them the opportunities they took advantage of and they still refuse to except it.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:04 pm to BurgTiger
Tennessee’s only hope of coming back is Nashville growing like Atlanta.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:17 pm to fanmeister
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Oklahoma and Georgia are historically "good", but haven't crossed the line to "great"
7 NC's spread across 4 different decades, 50 conference titles, 7 Heisman winners, and 6th in all time program wins (and could easily be in 4th by the end of this season) says you're clueless about what makes a program great.
Oh, and they have 5 former head coaches in the College Football Hall of Fame.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:38 pm to Evolved Simian
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says you're clueless about what makes a program great.
I'm a Bama fan - I know greatness when I see it. Not concerned with championships stretched out over 50 years.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 3:56 pm to Diego Ricardo
What always amazed me the most about Dr Toms Nebraska was the how the state government prostrated itself at his feet. I have friends in central and western NE that despise the Husker bootlickers in Lincoln that ignored the rest of the state while indulging his every whim.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 4:00 pm to fanmeister
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I'm a Bama fan - I know greatness when I see it. Not concerned with championships stretched out over 50 years.
So you should omit the Bears titles?
Posted on 8/29/21 at 4:13 pm to fanmeister
So you think LSU is more prestigious than OU?
What…
What…
Posted on 8/29/21 at 4:43 pm to fanmeister
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I'm a Bama fan - I know greatness when I see it. Not concerned with championships stretched out over 50 years.
I bet you have nacho cheese stained banners hanging everywhere with every title you guys claim going back to the very first one, instead of just the titles you've won under Saban.
This post was edited on 8/29/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 8/29/21 at 7:40 pm to CharlotteSooner
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I bet you have nacho cheese stained banners hanging everywhere with every title you guys claim going back to the very first one, instead of just the titles you've won under Saban.
Not at all. I was speaking of greatness in the current era. If you guys wish to talk about Doc Blanchard and all of the great Army teams go ahead. Even Michigan State at one time was considered "great", but not so much today.
Posted on 8/29/21 at 8:19 pm to fanmeister
For a SEC board, Nebraska sure does get discussed a lot around here.
First, let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams. It must have been tough on Tom to not have a team comprised of 100 future surgeons like your teams currently enjoy. Look up the Academic All Americans that played for him- I think it’s more than any other school has total.
Second- if you think Nebraska was the only school that had players on steroids; bless your heart. They invented strength and conditioning for football. The only mistake was showing others what they were doing.
Nebraska lost a pile of bowl games in a row- no doubt. Playing Miami in their home stadium year after year isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Oklahoma taking the high road and bashing Nebraska: come on. While I like Barry Switzer and miss the rivalry, they were SMU dirty for years.
Osborne won over 10 games a year (in 11 game seasons) and took apart some pretty goad coaches (and SEC teams) along the way. He also did it without top 5 recruiting classes. The Huskers beat people with amazing execution and great coaching. None of which Nebraska has now.
Frost is a massive disappointment- he is clearly in over his head and likely won’t survive this season.
First, let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams. It must have been tough on Tom to not have a team comprised of 100 future surgeons like your teams currently enjoy. Look up the Academic All Americans that played for him- I think it’s more than any other school has total.
Second- if you think Nebraska was the only school that had players on steroids; bless your heart. They invented strength and conditioning for football. The only mistake was showing others what they were doing.
Nebraska lost a pile of bowl games in a row- no doubt. Playing Miami in their home stadium year after year isn’t as easy as it sounds.
Oklahoma taking the high road and bashing Nebraska: come on. While I like Barry Switzer and miss the rivalry, they were SMU dirty for years.
Osborne won over 10 games a year (in 11 game seasons) and took apart some pretty goad coaches (and SEC teams) along the way. He also did it without top 5 recruiting classes. The Huskers beat people with amazing execution and great coaching. None of which Nebraska has now.
Frost is a massive disappointment- he is clearly in over his head and likely won’t survive this season.
Posted on 8/30/21 at 9:07 am to HuskerdownSouth
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let’s stop with the partial qualifier “loophole” stuff. It was allowed within the rules and used by many teams.
It wasn't just the Prop 48's, it was the shady county scholarships Nebraska had has well. No one in the SWC allowed Prop's, and Texas nor A&M had recruited Junior colleges for a long time, but Osborne just couldn't stop running his mouth about it, even after their Miami win, his 1st response was about Prop's lol. The vote was 11-1 to not allow them, besides that, the NCAA got rid of it altogether like 6 months later.
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