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re: sCar/Ark fans, tell me about your move to the SEC in the early 90's

Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:17 am to
Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
498 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:17 am to
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But was it still expected 30+ years later?
We are 10-7 against Miss St.....
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 4:18 am
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1727 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 4:56 am to
When I see your handle and 900 lines of prose, I go straight to the down vote arrow.

No point in reading anything, just down vote.

It’s become automatic.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 7:56 am
Posted by Pankins
Flahrida
Member since Oct 2010
1286 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 8:07 am to
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The Great Leap Forward … paid tremendous dividends

Downvote for historical illiteracy
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:05 am to
Hatfield was a better coach than what hog fans give him credit for.

He wouldn't have lost to the Citadel, Memphis or SMU.
Posted by Larry Seinfeld
Fayetteville
Member since Nov 2009
256 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 12:49 pm to
True. Only has the highest winning percentage of any Arkansas head football coach in history.
Posted by woodhog14
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jul 2011
986 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Hatfield was a better coach than what hog fans give him credit for.

He wouldn't have lost to the Citadel, Memphis or SMU.


He coached against inferior teams every year except Texas and A&M.

Hogs were 10-2 in 1989 and still lost to a 5-6 Texas team.

Hatfield couldn't win bowl games with his teams either, because the teams that he played in bowl games had speed. He was 1-7 in bowl games and 0-3 vs SEC teams.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:49 pm to
Ken Hatfield is 10-6 against SEC opponents with four conference titles and has the same exact bowl record at 4-6 as Frank Broyles.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 7:05 pm to
Yes and Arkansas would be in better shape had he been the coach instead of that sorry Jack Crowe.

He rebuilt a terrible Air Force program from scratch.

Won an ACC title at Clemson that had a long drought before Dabo arrived.

Won a SWC title at one of the worst division one programs in Rice.
Posted by Garl
Member since May 2025
35 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 7:23 pm to
quote:

We are 10-7 against Miss St


Okay. I'm not a Mississippi State fan.
Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
724 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:16 pm to
I was in college at the time. Arkansas vs Texas was an awesome rivalry. I was at their last SWC game vs Texas in Austin; I remember in 4th when we were about to win their cheerleaders were posing like they were shooting a jump shot because their basketball team was good.

I remember their wishbone offense being unstoppable (1990 or 1991 I think).

Arkansas had a huge and steady recruiting pipeline into Texas which, for some reason, mostly dried up after they left SWC.

As another wrote, it’s comical that the big bad wolf (Texas) gets blamed for all conference woes. Texas actually wanted equal revenue sharing when the Big 12 was formed but A&M and Nebraska (who was dominant at the time) insisted they get bigger shares. Texas went along. This is just a fact.

Texas as a three TD dog in the first big 12 championship beat Nebraska, and Tom Osborne never stopped crying about Texas for a decade as their program faded into oblivion.

A&M saw the SEC as a way to get out from big brother’s shadow. Shrug. Really can’t blame them but they’ll always be the really short dude who drives the monster truck. It is what it is.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24188 posts
Posted on 5/29/25 at 11:28 pm to
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I was in college at the time. Arkansas vs Texas was an awesome rivalry. I was at their last SWC game vs Texas in Austin; I remember in 4th when we were about to win their cheerleaders were posing like they were shooting a jump shot because their basketball team was good.


That was in texas, but the last swc game between the two was in Little Rock with Arkansas winning. I was there and the noise was amazing.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10697 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 9:39 am to
Arkansas put the rest of the SEC on notice that SEC basketball wasn't just Kentucky anymore.
That was the beginning of the rest of the SEC starting to take basketball as more than just killing time until football season.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10030 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:25 am to
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That was in texas, but the last swc game between the two was in Little Rock with Arkansas winning. I was there and the noise was amazing.


"All my exes live in Texas" playing on the PA system.
Posted by woodhog14
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jul 2011
986 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Ken Hatfield is 10-6 against SEC opponents with four conference titles and has the same exact bowl record at 4-6 as Frank Broyles.


Those were his stats at Arkansas that I posted. He would have been a horrible fit for the SEC at that time.

He was 1-7 in bowl games AT ARKANSAS.
0-3 vs the SEC in those bowl games.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Garl
Member since May 2025
35 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Arkansas put the rest of the SEC on notice that SEC basketball wasn't just Kentucky anymore.
That was the beginning of the rest of the SEC starting to take basketball as more than just killing time until football season.


Those early to mid 90s Nolan Richardson teams were so much fun to watch. I remember Al Dillard popping 35 ft threes like it was yesterday.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25789 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:39 pm to
1-5 at Arkansas.

Posted by HTX Horn
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
724 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:01 pm to
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That was in texas, but the last swc game between the two was in Little Rock with Arkansas winning. I was there and the noise was amazing.

Yeah I was going off memory so I'm sure you're right. I'm pretty sure it had been announced they were leaving though because I remember the Texas student section kinda jokingly giving it to the Arkansas cheerleaders, who then started doing the basketball shot pose.
Posted by Porcine Human
Benton, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11452 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:18 pm to
The idea that we made a mistake getting invited into what is now one of the two super conferences in the country is hilarious.

There’s no guarantee we would have continued the football success in the Big 12 - even though our current recruiting is poor relative to the conference it’s still pretty good nationally and part of that draw is the SEC. We still have no local talent base. If we were in the Big 12 we could easily be recruiting in the 40s and not even have that much of an advantage over other Big 12 schools.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
Chief of the Grammar Police
Member since Oct 2023
6306 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:36 pm to
It was a joke, dude.
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12966 posts
Posted on 5/30/25 at 3:12 pm to
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Did Colorado also leave Big 12 at same time as Nebraska, Missouri, and A&M?


Ozborne got all red-assed and had Nebraska leave the BIG 12 first because he was convinced there was some conspiracy going on that made his team go 1-9 against texsa (There wasn't. They just never understood TX as an opponent, and they just lost outright)

Once Nebraska left in a huff, it was a chain reaction with Colorado going into discussions with the PAC while Mizzou was showing some leg to the BIG 10 and ATM was having discussions with the SEC.
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