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re: Saw an interesting post on Reddit that shows lack of parity in today’s CFB is overblown

Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:42 am to
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:42 am to
This is nothing more than using fake “data science” to support an argument without any semblance of logic. This happens way too often.

There’s not even enough data points. There’s no reason to stop at 1998.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30056 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:49 am to
The switch to all-electric cars by 2035 is everyone else's only hope. Battery powered Challengers won't bring in the recruits.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:49 am to
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You didn't put them there, why should I? You just started crying about there being 2 teams, head and shoulders above the rest.



This is my first post in this thread you dolt.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:50 am to
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There’s no reason to stop at 1998.



The BCS started in 1998
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:50 am to
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Definitely on the fringe. If we’re going by postseason appearances and championships, they’d be just outside the top 5.



Bama, OU, Clemson, OSU, who's the 5th?
Posted by 5Wide
Member since Jun 2013
1918 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:50 am to
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We are moving towards a reducing in scholarships and conference championship requirements for playoff entry. Can't wait for the Gump melt.




Scholarship reductions aren't happening in this political climate and when the playoff expands to 8, Bama will be in every year even with a conference championship requirement.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:57 am to
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Scholarship reductions aren't happening in this political climate


What?

In men's sports? Why wouldn't they?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5895 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:59 am to
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Bama, OU, Clemson, OSU, who's the 5th?


Again, by CFP appearances and championships: Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Louisiana State, Oklahoma.

At any rate, it is disputable that Georgia is definitely the 2nd team in the SEC considering that LSU has really accomplished a bit more than Georgia in the Smart era.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24465 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:00 pm to
2014: #1 Alabama
2015: #2 Alabama
2016: #1 Alabama
2017: #4 Alabama
2018: #1 Alabama
2020: #1 Alabama

Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:00 pm to
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The BCS started in 1998


And the CFP started in 2014.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39987 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Again, by CFP appearances and championships: Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Louisiana State, Oklahoma.

At any rate, it is disputable that Georgia is definitely the 2nd team in the SEC considering that LSU has really accomplished a bit more than Georgia in the Smart era.


Eh, I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I see what you're saying but my red and black glasses don't agree
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:02 pm to
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And the CFP started in 2014.



So then you do understand why they went 1998-2013 and then 2014-present, then?
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7136 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:06 pm to
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Saban signs 27 every year.


wrong answer

2020 just for an example

Alabama
25 Commits

Texas A&M
26 Commits

Auburn
27 Commits

North Carolina
26 Commits

Penn State
27 Commits
This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 12:11 pm
Posted by 5Wide
Member since Jun 2013
1918 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:06 pm to
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What?

In men's sports? Why wouldn't they?



Optics would terrible, eliminating all those scholarships would be framed as "racist" by politicians and pundits.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22605 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:11 pm to
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Not sure about your math there? How is 26 different teams in the BCS era, which was a longer timeframe I acknowledge, only a negligible difference as compared to 11? There is absolutely nothing to suggest over the next 2-3 years that any team outside of OSU, Oklahoma, ND, UA, UGA, Clemson, or LSU will make the playoff. The playoff format would have to average nearly two new teams in the playoff each year to match the BCS which is nearly impossible. I am not sure you understand the word “negligible” but a 15 team difference is significant




And people would have said in the mid 2000's there was nothing that showed Alabama would turn into a dynasty.

In fact, Alabama was treated the same way teams like Nebraska and Michigan are treated now before Saban came.

Nobody expected LSU in 2019 either. Everyone here was crying about how it's always Alabama, blah blah blah.

This is how college football has always been.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19420 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:11 pm to
The only thing this shows me is that UGA is the most overrated team in college football.

Why do they collapse so badly at the end of the season?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:12 pm to
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Optics would terrible, eliminating all those scholarships would be framed as "racist"


In FB? Those folks detest FB along with "toxic masculinity"

They'd gladly sacrifice those opportunities for young black males if they were shifted over to females or transgender "athletes"
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2286 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:19 pm to
As I stated, the CFP would have to average nearly two new teams per year to match the BCS over the next 8-9 seasons. That is nearly impossible, it is a statistically significant difference no matter how you try to analyze it
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18357 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:23 pm to
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The main issue nowadays, to me anyway, is that the top 1 or 2 teams are SO above the rest that a team ranked even like 8th or 9th has zero chance at winning which hasn't always been the case. Even in the 90s with a florida, tennessee, fsu, etc they might slip up to an inferior team now and then. Compare that to present day alabama. You think there's any chance in absolute frick that a cincinnati or a wisconsin is gonna stay within 30?


I’m going to disagree here. For two reasons:

1) CFB has always had a few dominant teams in each era. We call them dynasties. What we’re seeing in Alabama is the best dynasty run in all of CFB history, so of course it should feel tiresome and redundant. USC’s run from 2003-2007 got old too, and Saban is the GOAT. To be the GOAT, you have to do GOAT things like separating yourself far enough from the crowd that people notice how great you are.

2) To address your point more directly, I don’t believe teams of prior eras were more challenged than teams are now.
Since 2017...

Clemson has had close games or losses against Syracuse, North Carolina, Texas A&M, Auburn, and NC State.

Alabama has had close games or losses against Auburn, Georgia, and LSU.

Ohio St has had close games or losses against Iowa, Penn St, Purdue, Maryland, Washington, and Indiana.

Oklahoma had certainly been beaten or challenged by lesser teams.

If you look at Florida and Florida St’s dynasties in the mid 90s (throw in Miami and USC in the 90s and 2000s), you’ll see that they were rarely challenged or beaten by lesser teams. Probably at the same rate as our current teams.

The biggest issue with college football parity right now is the disparity between perceptive value of games connected to the playoff and games not connected to the playoff. The bowls are worthless. Rivalry games don’t mean much anymore. Even conference championships have had issues with being worthless because one competing team could still make the playoff even if they lose.

This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16158 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 12:25 pm to
Look at these titty baby bitch boys whining about daddy BAMA and trying to socialize football.

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