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Posted on 7/21/26 at 9:08 am to n64ra
If the feds don't handle their business, and soon, Sanky will be a prophet, and soon!
Personally, I think it's more the answer than the option.
Personally, I think it's more the answer than the option.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:07 am to csgau
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Sankey is an empty suit.The BIG cleaned his clock with TV deal
The big names from the Big 10 will be in this too.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:39 am to Capn_Bevo
I’ve just seen no evidence that CFB power brokers are interested in doing collective bargaining. Collective bargaining almost always involves revenue sharing. The SEC is threatening to breakaway bc they don’t want to do revenue sharing.
CFB is desperately trying to get the Government to grant them an antitrust exemption that will allow them to operate as a non-capitalist system. This would allow them to control compensation without players having any bargaining power. The catch is it would involve revenue sharing. SEC is posturing to get the rev share piece out of the legislation. But, the system won’t work without it.
If/when that fails, CFB will either:
1. Try to get a new congress to pass their legislation.
2. Keep this unsustainable model until it implodes. Athletic departments start shutting down bc they can’t keep up with the biggest brands.
3. Move forward with collective bargaining.
Players are adults. In an American economy, you are compensated based on your talents that people are willing to pay for. College athletes are talented enough to bring billions into a system. A collective bargaining system keeps costs uniform, treats players and institutions fairly, and encourages cooperation.
CFB is desperately trying to get the Government to grant them an antitrust exemption that will allow them to operate as a non-capitalist system. This would allow them to control compensation without players having any bargaining power. The catch is it would involve revenue sharing. SEC is posturing to get the rev share piece out of the legislation. But, the system won’t work without it.
If/when that fails, CFB will either:
1. Try to get a new congress to pass their legislation.
2. Keep this unsustainable model until it implodes. Athletic departments start shutting down bc they can’t keep up with the biggest brands.
3. Move forward with collective bargaining.
Players are adults. In an American economy, you are compensated based on your talents that people are willing to pay for. College athletes are talented enough to bring billions into a system. A collective bargaining system keeps costs uniform, treats players and institutions fairly, and encourages cooperation.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 10:39 am to Capn_Bevo
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...a new super league would run into the same issues that the NCAA has...
Not if the new super league left rules on NIL and transfers completely out of it.
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Why wouldn't there be collective bargaining?
The athletes, especially the top earning ones, are not at all interested in being part of such a thing. Further, according to a recent (2021) Supreme Court ruling, they can't be forced into a CBA or to have to follow the rules of one even if one did come into being - atleast not at the public institutions they can't be.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 7/21/26 at 11:33 am to AUTiger789
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All 16 SEC schools
Not so sure about that.....
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17 Big 10 schools (all but Rutgers)
Not so sure about that......
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Add 7 more schools to get to 40: Clemson, Florida St, N Carolina, Miami, Colorado, Virginia, Virginia Tech.
One of those schools will be left out.
This post was edited on 7/21/26 at 11:34 am
Posted on 7/21/26 at 2:08 pm to Yukons Worst
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quote:Colorado frick no...
As a Colorado School of Mines grad, I wholeheartedly concur; frick no.
Posted on 7/21/26 at 3:06 pm to n64ra
this is inevitable.
its not if but when.
its not if but when.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:11 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
The Donald Trump TACO strategy.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:12 pm to n64ra
NCAA, no NCAA, super leagues, no leagues...IDGAF anymore. It's all so tiring. The only thing I want, however we get there, is a uniform set of rules everyone abides by that are ACTUALLY ENFORCEABLE. Ideally, the rules would actually be good ones too like restricting transfers and other basic common sense shite like that.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:42 pm to Aggie in TN
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SEC and BIG break from the NCAA, then it's "open season" for poaching players from other teams inside the NCAA.
and vice versa.
At the end of the day there is only so much money available. Just because the SEC breaks away doesn't mean NIL money goes up. In fact, I don't see if going up much at all.
Same exact problems that exist now will exist then. Throw in competing leagues and the possibility of open poaching and the current mess simply continues. Just my opinion.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:53 pm to Murph4HOF
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Rutgers appeal now is the same it was when they left the Big East: NYC media market although there are about 1,000 things more important to your average NYC area resident than Rutgers football.
I'm sure Mississippi St. playing Oklahoma draws in a much higher percentage of Mississippi and southeast residents eyeballs than Rutgers playing UCLA in NYC.
More to the point, I'm sure games like Georgia vs Texas draw more interest IN NYC than Rutgers vs anyone
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:38 pm to Tridentds
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Just because the SEC breaks away doesn't mean NIL money goes up.
The point isn't that NIL money goes up. The point is that it is a clear violation of the law (and the Constitution if any obscene legislation like this ever does get passed and the Supreme Court gets their say). The NCAA getting exemptions from breaking those laws is just the final straw. I almost hope the law passes.
Then the P4 along with the PAC + 6-8 G5's will go off to form their own governance structure and the NCAA can finally have its long coveted disgusting exemptions. Indeed, it will take its final gasping dying breath with them in hand.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:46 pm to AUTiger789
It is all about TV marketplaces now. So that would open up the Arizona and Kansas marketplaces...that is all it is about now sadly. College sports have def changed for the worst.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:50 pm to AUTiger789
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It's inevitably going to happen. Might as well just cut to the chase and do it.
All 16 SEC schools
17 Big 10 schools (all but Rutgers)
Add 7 more schools to get to 40: Clemson, Florida St, N Carolina, Miami, Colorado, Virginia, Virginia Tech.
Call it a day
I got a better idea.
Break away, but add even MORE teams. Frick 40...let's go 60! Take 60 teams and tell the rest to be 1AA.
Then, you take the 60 teams that now make up Division 1A and break them into conferences. Let's saaayyyy....6 conferenes with 10 teams each. And each conference is based on location! It's regional so all the teams in each conference are in the same focused geographic footprint. Now we're getting somewhere...
Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:55 pm to n64ra
Sankey's statement was pretty ambiguous...akin to saying "a lot of people are saying....."
There is little doubt its been discussed...it be a foolish idea to think it is somehow taboo to speak of in the hallowed halls of SEC HQ. It being discussed on any meaningful level is unlikely....a smart organization should consider any and all contingencies it can identify, and this is certainly one of those..but beyond that its doubtful much time has been spent on it. That said its pretty clear that some break of about 30 or so teams in CFB is inevitable IF something isn't done to reign in the portal...its impossible to manage a massive business like Alabama football, for example, when you have no idea who your employees are going to be at some basic level from week to week....and thats basically what CFB is dealing with at the moment - not week to week but considering its a 24-7-365 business thats only open for business 16 days a year, if you're good and lucky, there is no way to manage it. Hell those pop up halloween stores are open more days than CFB is.....and they are better managed than most CFB teams are currently.
There is little doubt its been discussed...it be a foolish idea to think it is somehow taboo to speak of in the hallowed halls of SEC HQ. It being discussed on any meaningful level is unlikely....a smart organization should consider any and all contingencies it can identify, and this is certainly one of those..but beyond that its doubtful much time has been spent on it. That said its pretty clear that some break of about 30 or so teams in CFB is inevitable IF something isn't done to reign in the portal...its impossible to manage a massive business like Alabama football, for example, when you have no idea who your employees are going to be at some basic level from week to week....and thats basically what CFB is dealing with at the moment - not week to week but considering its a 24-7-365 business thats only open for business 16 days a year, if you're good and lucky, there is no way to manage it. Hell those pop up halloween stores are open more days than CFB is.....and they are better managed than most CFB teams are currently.
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:02 pm to AUTiger789
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I think you have to keep all non-football sports separate. I mean you're going to have to let way more than 40 teams in the top division.
I wouldn't make any football decisions based upon a school's basketball appeal (ie Kansas, Arizona, UConn, etc)
Basketball certainly makes it complicated.
I mean it would be a disastrous mess regardless but basketball actually makes a lot of money (maybe the most for the NCAA?) and top basketball programs have the same complaints as football about NIL etc.
Actually threatening the NCAA's basketball revenue may be the best point in negotiating some sort of change that actually makes any sense long term.
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