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re: Dane Brugler’s Top 50 Draft Prospects
Posted by NewBeginnings on 11/12/25 at 4:03 pm to GynoSandberg
Reese, Faulk, or Tyson in that order.
My real preference is a small trade down.
My real preference is a small trade down.
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re: A 1 win team playing their arse off today is a great sign
Posted by NewBeginnings on 11/9/25 at 10:05 pm to CBandits82
I think this is the additional value that Cam, Demario, Alvin, and Taysom bring to the team. High character veterans that set the example for young players.
re: New HC opening at LSU
Posted by NewBeginnings on 11/6/25 at 1:19 pm to ApexTiger
Agreed. Plus, his OC is our OC from the 2023 team. If he comes with Freeman, this would be a home run!
re: Updated Saints draft picks for 2026 & 2027 drafts
Posted by NewBeginnings on 11/5/25 at 1:46 pm to L.A.
My hope is that we trade down slightly in the 2nd round. We will likely be in the 33rd-36th range. Those are very valuable spots. If we traded down to 37-42 while picking up a few extra picks, it seems like a no-brainer.
I could be convinced from trading slightly down in the 1st round but less willing to do that bc we need some blue chip talent badly.
I could be convinced from trading slightly down in the 1st round but less willing to do that bc we need some blue chip talent badly.
Remember when…
Posted by NewBeginnings on 11/2/25 at 8:28 am
The Saints were courting Cooper Kupp this past offseason and were 2nd to the Seahawks in getting him.
It’s things like that that make me worry about Loomis guiding a rebuild! There is no situation where a team like ours should be pursuing 30 year old players in the offseason unless it is 1 year/vet minimum deals to have mentors for young players.
I’m scared of what deals Loomis will make when he has valuable draft capital.
It’s things like that that make me worry about Loomis guiding a rebuild! There is no situation where a team like ours should be pursuing 30 year old players in the offseason unless it is 1 year/vet minimum deals to have mentors for young players.
I’m scared of what deals Loomis will make when he has valuable draft capital.
re: Who’s your melt hire?
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/27/25 at 6:29 pm to NewBeginnings
Forgot about another….Joe Brady.
No experience as a head coach, little to no experience with recruiting, and his only qualifications is that two offenses he led successfully had all-pro/all time greats running his plays.
No experience as a head coach, little to no experience with recruiting, and his only qualifications is that two offenses he led successfully had all-pro/all time greats running his plays.
re: Who’s your melt hire?
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/27/25 at 6:22 pm to JPLSU1981
Mullen- lazy recruiter
Lashley- a lucky year at SMU, untested in running a big program
Fisch- lots of subpar seasons and only one 10 win season
Gruden- awful on many levels
Shepherd- maybe one day but he needs experience before leading such a big program
To a lesser degree:
Franklin- doesn’t win big games and seems like Kelly experience all over again
Lea- may be great but also may have caught lightning in a bottle at Vandy
Lashley- a lucky year at SMU, untested in running a big program
Fisch- lots of subpar seasons and only one 10 win season
Gruden- awful on many levels
Shepherd- maybe one day but he needs experience before leading such a big program
To a lesser degree:
Franklin- doesn’t win big games and seems like Kelly experience all over again
Lea- may be great but also may have caught lightning in a bottle at Vandy
Last two coaching cycles for LSU….
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/26/25 at 8:56 pm
LSU was played by agents for the “best” candidates in their past two cycles:
2016: Tom Herman was the can’t miss guy. His agent played us to get a bigger deal at Texas.
2021: Lincoln Riley was the guy. All the rumors made LSU the match until USC gave a ridiculous offer.
These guys were offensive gurus who were can’t miss gets. In retrospect, I’m glad LSU didn’t get either. All that to say, Kiffin’s agent is going to leverage the heck out of LSU to get a record contract from someone ( Ole Miss, Florida, or LSU). Considering that, I’d rather pass on Lane. Lots of coaches out there who are able to win at LSU.
2016: Tom Herman was the can’t miss guy. His agent played us to get a bigger deal at Texas.
2021: Lincoln Riley was the guy. All the rumors made LSU the match until USC gave a ridiculous offer.
These guys were offensive gurus who were can’t miss gets. In retrospect, I’m glad LSU didn’t get either. All that to say, Kiffin’s agent is going to leverage the heck out of LSU to get a record contract from someone ( Ole Miss, Florida, or LSU). Considering that, I’d rather pass on Lane. Lots of coaches out there who are able to win at LSU.
re: Give me a big whale name not Kiffin
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/26/25 at 4:14 pm to Boyntonbeach Tiger
Why do people bring him up?
Gruden should not coach football again.
He would be a disaster as a college coach…
1. Outdated offense
2. Negative recruiting by opponents
3. Some recruits and high school coaches will not support him.
4. The Bill Belicheck disaster at North Carolina should be a signal that this is a terrible idea.
Gruden should not coach football again.
He would be a disaster as a college coach…
1. Outdated offense
2. Negative recruiting by opponents
3. Some recruits and high school coaches will not support him.
4. The Bill Belicheck disaster at North Carolina should be a signal that this is a terrible idea.
If Brian Kelly is let go…
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/26/25 at 3:27 pm
What do you think are the chances that he immediately takes another job and LSU gets an offset?
I think teams like Va Tech, Ok State, Stanford, or UCLA would have interest in an experienced coach like him.
I give it a 65% chance. I think he would be a good fit at Stanford.
I think teams like Va Tech, Ok State, Stanford, or UCLA would have interest in an experienced coach like him.
I give it a 65% chance. I think he would be a good fit at Stanford.
re: Where I’m at….
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/20/25 at 2:26 pm to infantry1026
I hear your frustration and the point that you’re making. A counterpoint would be that Rattler has only had 7 games in Kellen Moore’s system. The seven games last year were under Kubiak as OC.
I’m not defending Rattler per se. I don’t think he’s the long term answer, but I do think we could do a lot worse while we are rebuilding. I do want to defend the process of developing QB’s. As a long time NFL fan, the common thread amongst the perennial bad teams (ie Jets, Raiders, Browns, Lions before Campbell, Panthers under Tepper) is that they constantly change QB’s, coaches and schemes, and/or have meddling owners who think they know football but don’t).
Campbell and Detroit started like 0-10 with Jared Goff his first year. Goff is an MVP candidate now but back then, most thought he was at best between 15-25th best starting QB. Everyone expected Detroit to use him as a bridge to a high draft pick QB. Now, they are one of top teams bc of the process they went through.
I’m not defending Rattler per se. I don’t think he’s the long term answer, but I do think we could do a lot worse while we are rebuilding. I do want to defend the process of developing QB’s. As a long time NFL fan, the common thread amongst the perennial bad teams (ie Jets, Raiders, Browns, Lions before Campbell, Panthers under Tepper) is that they constantly change QB’s, coaches and schemes, and/or have meddling owners who think they know football but don’t).
Campbell and Detroit started like 0-10 with Jared Goff his first year. Goff is an MVP candidate now but back then, most thought he was at best between 15-25th best starting QB. Everyone expected Detroit to use him as a bridge to a high draft pick QB. Now, they are one of top teams bc of the process they went through.
re: Where I’m at….
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/20/25 at 9:42 am to NewBeginnings
5. We need a full evaluation on QB’s. Yo-yo’ing QB’s on a team like ours is desperation. Let Rattler play until the bye. That gives you around 10 games of information. Then Shough plays 7. That is a great use of two young players. They both get to play extended weeks without looking over their shoulder, develop chemistry w players, chemistry w preparation for game week, etc. But if you yank them after every bad performance, you will never know what you have. Then they go somewhere else and succeed (ie Darnold, Baker, Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, etc).
Where I’m at….
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/20/25 at 9:37 am
1. Games like this are part of rebuilds. It is not a straight linear path of growth.
2. Lots of people seem to be upset which makes me wonder what their expectations were coming into season and this game. The rebuild had already started and I would estimate is about 30% complete
3. If we were playing like the Jets, then I would understand frustration.
4. I think our coaching staff is solid. Huge improvement over the Allen teams. It’s just the ingredients are not in the cupboard yet.
2. Lots of people seem to be upset which makes me wonder what their expectations were coming into season and this game. The rebuild had already started and I would estimate is about 30% complete
3. If we were playing like the Jets, then I would understand frustration.
4. I think our coaching staff is solid. Huge improvement over the Allen teams. It’s just the ingredients are not in the cupboard yet.
re: Jackson Dart
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/19/25 at 5:08 pm to Optimism
There will be better QB options in this draft.
It’s too early to tell about Dart. At one point, Giants fans thought Daniel Jones was the franchise. Then they couldn’t get rid of him fast enough (now he looks pretty good for the Colts).
My point….patience w young QB’s is key.
It’s too early to tell about Dart. At one point, Giants fans thought Daniel Jones was the franchise. Then they couldn’t get rid of him fast enough (now he looks pretty good for the Colts).
My point….patience w young QB’s is key.
The Ringer’s detailed QB weekly rankings
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/16/25 at 1:33 pm
I stumbled upon the Ringer’s weekly QB ratings and found that they are really well done. It gives detailed analysis and seems informative rather than a ranking based on click bait takes.
LINK
Rattler is rated #24 this week. I think numbers are arbitrary but his analysis of Rattler’s game and what the next step would be seemed sound.
What I found fascinating is where he ranked Michael Penix and Bryce Young based on current play. Baker was the only NFC south QB above Rattler (appropriately so).
I would be sick if I was a Panthers or Falcons fan knowing that I paid a premium draft price for what they got.
I’m not saying Rattler is the guy….but I am taking joy in the fact that our 5th round pick is outperforming their first round picks.
LINK
Rattler is rated #24 this week. I think numbers are arbitrary but his analysis of Rattler’s game and what the next step would be seemed sound.
What I found fascinating is where he ranked Michael Penix and Bryce Young based on current play. Baker was the only NFC south QB above Rattler (appropriately so).
I would be sick if I was a Panthers or Falcons fan knowing that I paid a premium draft price for what they got.
I’m not saying Rattler is the guy….but I am taking joy in the fact that our 5th round pick is outperforming their first round picks.
re: Hearing sources say Olave is on the block now
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/13/25 at 7:31 pm to jamal
Let’s play this smart and not do it asap. Start the rumors, field calls, leak that there is interest from multiple teams, leak positive reports about him, and then trade him right up at the trade deadline. Hopefully this will create a competitive market that brings better picks.
Like fattening a cow before taking it to the slaughter.
Like fattening a cow before taking it to the slaughter.
re: The only way is through
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/13/25 at 11:34 am to jmcwhrter
Agreed. I think everyone we face this year will have to prepare and be ready to play in order to beat us. If we keep playing this way, teams aren’t going to look at us as just an easy win that they get by showing up.
Thats huge for a rebuilding team. Detroit had that identity when they were 0-10 in Campbell’s first year.
Thats huge for a rebuilding team. Detroit had that identity when they were 0-10 in Campbell’s first year.
The only way is through
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/13/25 at 9:14 am
Random thoughts following yesterdays game:
1. The only way to have a young and talented roster is doing just what the Saints are doing.
2. This team is very watchable. I remember watching the Ditka Saints until about mid-season. They were a cluster and miserable to watch. I expected to not be able to tolerate watching this team and have free Sundays. Hasn’t been the case so far.
3. Hiring Dennis Allen was such a mistake. Not just because of him. We needed to start the rebuild then. But, by hiring Allen it made it to where we had to build the team to compete as best as possible bc he was in his second coaching stint (don’t get three shots to be HC if you fail in first two). That one decision led to:
A. Overpaying for Carr
B. Too aggressive trades / reaches in the draft
C. Hanging on to veterans past their prime
I like what we are building toward now. Idk if the process will work but at least it is a sensible, realistic strategy.
1. The only way to have a young and talented roster is doing just what the Saints are doing.
2. This team is very watchable. I remember watching the Ditka Saints until about mid-season. They were a cluster and miserable to watch. I expected to not be able to tolerate watching this team and have free Sundays. Hasn’t been the case so far.
3. Hiring Dennis Allen was such a mistake. Not just because of him. We needed to start the rebuild then. But, by hiring Allen it made it to where we had to build the team to compete as best as possible bc he was in his second coaching stint (don’t get three shots to be HC if you fail in first two). That one decision led to:
A. Overpaying for Carr
B. Too aggressive trades / reaches in the draft
C. Hanging on to veterans past their prime
I like what we are building toward now. Idk if the process will work but at least it is a sensible, realistic strategy.
re: Reminder that Loomis
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/13/25 at 7:18 am to Townedrunkard
Pickens is a head case. He’s feeling great right now because he’s the clear #1 option. Wait until Lamb comes back and his production drops.
He will be complaining, pouting, making passive-aggressive comments to the media.
That’s not the personality needed on a rebuilding team with a first year coach.
He will be complaining, pouting, making passive-aggressive comments to the media.
That’s not the personality needed on a rebuilding team with a first year coach.
Spencer Rattler through 5 games
Posted by NewBeginnings on 10/7/25 at 9:40 am
Through 5 games, Rattler has a QB rating of 90.4. That is considered barely in the above average range. Regardless of opinions on Rattler, getting that level of QB play on a rebuilding team is terrific. I was bracing for a full season of Ian Book or Trevor Seimien level QB performance.
The question I have is do you think:
1. This is a product of Kellen Moore/Nussmeier system getting the most out of him. If they have a more talented QB, then the sky is the limit bc they know what they are doing w QB’s.
2. This is Rattler’s absolute ceiling and he will be well below 90 by the end of the season.
3. Rattler is still young and has room to grow into a consistent 100+ QB rating.
The question I have is do you think:
1. This is a product of Kellen Moore/Nussmeier system getting the most out of him. If they have a more talented QB, then the sky is the limit bc they know what they are doing w QB’s.
2. This is Rattler’s absolute ceiling and he will be well below 90 by the end of the season.
3. Rattler is still young and has room to grow into a consistent 100+ QB rating.
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