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Depends on several factors:
1. How much prep time do the coaches of the past teams get? If they have film on the current teams, then I believe they could scheme against the spread.
2. Which set of rules are we playing with? Old school football was more physical. Targeting was allowed. Going across the middle was a risky decision. I’m all for the new rules ( I’m a parent and see these players from a parental standpoint) but the fact is that if today’s players played under former rules, it would be a shock.

I appreciate someone posting about fit, positional value, and how this can make the team better or worse. Tired of whiny posts about the QB position.

I’m going to push back against this narrative. I teach at a small university and have teenage kids. I think Shedeur’s entitlement is an exception and not the rule. I encounter really great young g people far more often than the occasional entitled young adult. The entitled ones just get the focus and so it seems worse than it is.

That Shough was the only QB that the Saints had rated as a 1st rounder other than Ward. They probably think they got two first rounders wo trading up. They stuck to their board.
Time will tell if they are right.

I’ll start out by saying I’m so glad we dodged wasting a 1st on a QB in this draft. That being said, here are the realistic QB options that I see for 2025 and what I think the range of wins are for each:

1. Start Rattler to see what we have. Range: 3-6 wins
2. Sign or trade for a veteran such as Winston or Wentz. Range: 3-7 wins
3. Draft Tyler Shough and start him. Range: 3-6 wins.
4. Start Haener. Range: 2-4 wins
5. Draft Sanders. Range: 3-5 wins.

If there is another Realistic option that I’m not seeing, feel free to suggest. We can disagree about the range of wins but can surely agree that none of these options will get us 9 wins or more. Considering all of these options, I think option1 is the best use of resources. Prepare to develop the roster and go QB hunting next offseason.

No. He is heavily over rated. He is a 3rd round prospect. We can get guys at 40 who slipped out of the first round for much better value

Penning’s ceiling is slightly below average to average. Not a good investment to give a notable second contract to a limited ceiling player. If he moves to guard and does better….maybe.
We complained about keeping Andrus Peat for as long as we did. He failed at tackle, was moved to guard and was an okay backup tackle when needed. Peat level play would be the best case scenario for Penning. I doubt he could be 90% of what Peat was….and that wasn’t great.

Fair point….but only when the guy you’re trading up for is seen as worth trading up for. Everyone of those guys were well thought of by many in the draft community.
Most people I hear say Dart would be 3rd round in a normal draft

No…no one will wear #2 at Colorado because of nepotism. There are Colorado players that were way better than Sanders that have not been honored like that.
This is travel ball culture ( my daddy is the coach so I start) seeping into college sports.

Have made the fewest draft selections of any NFL team. Just 63 selections (Green Bay leads with 97 in the same time period).
Conversely, The NY Times ranks the Saints roster 29th in talent level. LINK /

I think it’s clear that Loomis’s strategy of trading up and burning all kinds of picks to do so is taking us to the bottom. We are finally going into a draft with a decent number of picks and needs everywhere. I cannot see any justification for him to continue to trade up.