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re: Saban’s real problem with NIL is that Alabama does not have the donor base to compete

Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20271 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:00 am to
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So you think both programs have been clean until now and haven’t been trying to use all that money to win up to this point?


They were as dirty as everybody else up to that point. But there's so many alums at both of those schools with frick you money that it will be absolutely impossible to keep up with them. You guys will try. LSU, Bama, Auburn will all win games but we'll all be doing it with players the Texas schools didn't want to buy.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37596 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:01 am to
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There is no way … NO way … not in this or any known solar system that Congress or the courts are going to do one thing to impede the earning power of athletes given who they predominantly are and where they predominantly come from. It … ain’t … happening. Ever. Period. Drop that mic and kick it across the room.


Really? It has already been done in professional sports.
Posted by LSUOilman
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
580 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:08 am to
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What happens to TAM when oil runs out?


lulz
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7132 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:10 am to
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There is no way … NO way … not in this or any known solar system that Congress or the courts are going to do one thing to impede the earning power of athletes


Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to

1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players

2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL

3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players

4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7132 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:13 am to
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It has already been done in professional sports.



and why does the NFL strive to have parity with regulation? Because they aren't so stupid to think their business can survive without those regulations.

Colleges won't have salary caps or a draft but there will be regulations that all member instututions agree to. 8&4feit does not have to agree to it but they won't be a part of it if not.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1731 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:14 am to
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Really? It has already been done in professional sports.


Did Congress and the courts institute those caps in professional sports?

Your post said, specifically, that Congress would step in and fix this.

My response to you said, specifically, that there is no way in hell Congress or the courts are going to step in and fix this.

You’re talking like a fan, and the biggest problem here … and I hate it and think it’s destructive to the sport’s long term future, but I have to call reality when I see it … is that the people who made the decision that unleashed this mess and will continue to make decisions about it in the future don’t give six cacas about the fans or their interests or what they want.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7132 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:15 am to
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My response to you said, specifically, that there is no way in hell Congress or the courts are going to step in and fix this.



Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to

1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players

2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL

3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players

4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37596 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:17 am to
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Colleges won't have salary caps or a draft but there will be regulations that all member instututions agree to. 8&4feit does not have to agree to it but they won't be a part of it if not.




There are already rules and the NCAA specifically states that NIL is NOT supposed to be used for p4p.

Oe amusing part of Jimbo's disingenuous rant was that he didn't break any state laws....maybe the only truthful thing he said. There is a conflict with NCAA rules and what is permitted under state laws. Until that is resolved, shady actors like A&M can claim what they did is legal. If this really does upend the balance of sports, Congress will way in.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1731 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:18 am to
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Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to 1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players 2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL 3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players 4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen


I would love to see everything you mentioned come about. Every syllable of it.

But do you REALLY think Congress is going to touch this because fans are griping?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2286 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:23 am to
Paul Bryant Jr is worth beans compared to true big money boosters
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15035 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:23 am to
Not LSU. Louisiana is a poor state. Just is an arse backwards poor state.
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2286 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:25 am to
Congress may get involved eventually but not anytime soon, they will be stuck in gridlock through the next Presidential election. They will be too busy pandering to voters until then
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
4949 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:27 am to
I kinda want Harvard and Yale to frick around and become powerhouses with NIL dollars
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 11:28 am
Posted by vholley50
Midland City,Al
Member since Nov 2013
263 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:41 am to
Y’all are going to be pissed when the team goes 8-5…again!
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37596 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:41 am to
Yeah I do think they will weigh in at some point

The Legislature and Courts aren't going to bother themselves with caps and violations and all of that. They will empower the NCAA to do that with the force of law. Much like they do presently with the NFL. The NCAA already does that but they will put some real teeth in it
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:42 am to
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I kinda want Harvard and Yale to frick around and become powerhouses with NIL dollars


The Ivy League decided a long time ago To concentrate on education and not sports. If it gets to the point that most programs can’t compete fairly , you will see a lot more of that.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1731 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:49 am to
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Yeah I do think they will weigh in at some point The Legislature and Courts aren't going to bother themselves with caps and violations and all of that. They will empower the NCAA to do that with the force of law. Much like they do presently with the NFL. The NCAA already does that but they will put some real teeth in it


For the good of the sport I hope you are right.

We will have to agree to disagree in that I think you are wrong.

I will point out, at the risk of sending this into PoliBoard territory, that the decision that opened the door for this came from a supposedly “conservative” Supreme Court, and that any action by Congress can be overturned by the Supreme Court.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51354 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:51 am to
Auburn has Cook
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:56 am to
See, that’s the point. When you say donors what you actually mean is athletic boosters, and boosters providing incentives to buy players is against NIL regulations.
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
9667 posts
Posted on 5/21/22 at 12:49 pm to
If.... NIL "fully develops" it will be Texas and Texas A&M. The rest of the SEC schools are pretty much the same. Alabama actually has more donations than some of those schools you mentioned.
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