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re: Saban’s real problem with NIL is that Alabama does not have the donor base to compete
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:00 am to Dawgfanman
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:00 am to Dawgfanman
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So you think both programs have been clean until now and haven’t been trying to use all that money to win up to this point?
They were as dirty as everybody else up to that point. But there's so many alums at both of those schools with frick you money that it will be absolutely impossible to keep up with them. You guys will try. LSU, Bama, Auburn will all win games but we'll all be doing it with players the Texas schools didn't want to buy.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:01 am to InkStainedWretch
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There is no way … NO way … not in this or any known solar system that Congress or the courts are going to do one thing to impede the earning power of athletes given who they predominantly are and where they predominantly come from. It … ain’t … happening. Ever. Period. Drop that mic and kick it across the room.
Really? It has already been done in professional sports.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:08 am to RollTide4Ever
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What happens to TAM when oil runs out?
lulz
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:10 am to InkStainedWretch
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There is no way … NO way … not in this or any known solar system that Congress or the courts are going to do one thing to impede the earning power of athletes
Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to
1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players
2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL
3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players
4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:13 am to 14&Counting
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It has already been done in professional sports.
and why does the NFL strive to have parity with regulation? Because they aren't so stupid to think their business can survive without those regulations.
Colleges won't have salary caps or a draft but there will be regulations that all member instututions agree to. 8&4feit does not have to agree to it but they won't be a part of it if not.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:14 am to 14&Counting
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Really? It has already been done in professional sports.
Did Congress and the courts institute those caps in professional sports?
Your post said, specifically, that Congress would step in and fix this.
My response to you said, specifically, that there is no way in hell Congress or the courts are going to step in and fix this.
You’re talking like a fan, and the biggest problem here … and I hate it and think it’s destructive to the sport’s long term future, but I have to call reality when I see it … is that the people who made the decision that unleashed this mess and will continue to make decisions about it in the future don’t give six cacas about the fans or their interests or what they want.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:15 am to InkStainedWretch
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My response to you said, specifically, that there is no way in hell Congress or the courts are going to step in and fix this.
Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to
1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players
2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL
3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players
4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:17 am to BLG
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Colleges won't have salary caps or a draft but there will be regulations that all member instututions agree to. 8&4feit does not have to agree to it but they won't be a part of it if not.
There are already rules and the NCAA specifically states that NIL is NOT supposed to be used for p4p.
Oe amusing part of Jimbo's disingenuous rant was that he didn't break any state laws....maybe the only truthful thing he said. There is a conflict with NCAA rules and what is permitted under state laws. Until that is resolved, shady actors like A&M can claim what they did is legal. If this really does upend the balance of sports, Congress will way in.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:18 am to BLG
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Apparently unlike you, most Congressmen are smart enough to 1- understand the difference in an athlete marketing his name and image with legitimate businesses as NIL intended, and boosters buying players 2- realize that those athletes still will have the opportunity to use NIL 3- understand the colleges and universities in their state support the majority of NCAA member institutions and don't wasnt boosters buying players 4- understand their constituents, including fans and college administrators, want college football to survive and that NIL regulations are necessary for this to happen
I would love to see everything you mentioned come about. Every syllable of it.
But do you REALLY think Congress is going to touch this because fans are griping?
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:23 am to deltaland
Paul Bryant Jr is worth beans compared to true big money boosters
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:23 am to cokebottleag
Not LSU. Louisiana is a poor state. Just is an arse backwards poor state.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:25 am to BLG
Congress may get involved eventually but not anytime soon, they will be stuck in gridlock through the next Presidential election. They will be too busy pandering to voters until then
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:27 am to cokebottleag
I kinda want Harvard and Yale to frick around and become powerhouses with NIL dollars
This post was edited on 5/21/22 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:41 am to cokebottleag
Y’all are going to be pissed when the team goes 8-5…again!
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:41 am to InkStainedWretch
Yeah I do think they will weigh in at some point
The Legislature and Courts aren't going to bother themselves with caps and violations and all of that. They will empower the NCAA to do that with the force of law. Much like they do presently with the NFL. The NCAA already does that but they will put some real teeth in it
The Legislature and Courts aren't going to bother themselves with caps and violations and all of that. They will empower the NCAA to do that with the force of law. Much like they do presently with the NFL. The NCAA already does that but they will put some real teeth in it
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:42 am to KyleOrtonsMustache
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I kinda want Harvard and Yale to frick around and become powerhouses with NIL dollars
The Ivy League decided a long time ago To concentrate on education and not sports. If it gets to the point that most programs can’t compete fairly , you will see a lot more of that.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:49 am to 14&Counting
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Yeah I do think they will weigh in at some point The Legislature and Courts aren't going to bother themselves with caps and violations and all of that. They will empower the NCAA to do that with the force of law. Much like they do presently with the NFL. The NCAA already does that but they will put some real teeth in it
For the good of the sport I hope you are right.
We will have to agree to disagree in that I think you are wrong.
I will point out, at the risk of sending this into PoliBoard territory, that the decision that opened the door for this came from a supposedly “conservative” Supreme Court, and that any action by Congress can be overturned by the Supreme Court.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 11:56 am to cokebottleag
See, that’s the point. When you say donors what you actually mean is athletic boosters, and boosters providing incentives to buy players is against NIL regulations.
Posted on 5/21/22 at 12:49 pm to cokebottleag
If.... NIL "fully develops" it will be Texas and Texas A&M. The rest of the SEC schools are pretty much the same. Alabama actually has more donations than some of those schools you mentioned.
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