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BurgTiger
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
The Great State of Texas is a much better place to live than Bama. I get it.


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TheTideMustRoll
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
Back when all this went down my division officer at the time, who was from Texas and was the prototypical a-hole “everything is better in Texas” guy, assured me that UTex was getting Saban because they could pay more than Alabama. I told him that while Texas certainly could pay more for a football coach than Alabama, Alabama would pay more for one than Texas. He laughed his smarmy douchebag laugh.

Of course, once Saban staying at Bama became official, he backtracked completely and said that Texas had never really wanted Saban in the first place. Jackass.


Bulldogblitz
Member since Dec 2018
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
He tries to leave bama every year, but some booster has the goods on him and extorted him each time.


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OleManDixon
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Member since Jan 2018
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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Nah. We have a lot more than $. Location, academic prestige, the number one brand in Texas, etc.


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3down10
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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Back when all this went down my division officer at the time, who was from Texas and was the prototypical a-hole “everything is better in Texas” guy, assured me that UTex was getting Saban because they could pay more than Alabama. I told him that while Texas certainly could pay more for a football coach than Alabama, Alabama would pay more for one than Texas. He laughed his smarmy douchebag laugh.



Truth.

Texas always has enough money to buy any coach or anything...but they never actually do it.


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TouchdownTony
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
bullshitee. Texas power brokers wouldn't have let Mack Brown stand in the way. Saban didn't want to deal with said people.


Smart Post
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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bullshitee. Texas power brokers wouldn't have let Mack Brown stand in the way. Saban didn't want to deal with said people.

That last part could very well be true, and the faculty might've revolted if Saban came to Austin... But one more time:

Mack Brown had a lot of friends among the boosters, one of whom was the most powerful one -- Joe Jamail, one of the wealthiest attorneys in America (he's dead now).

Jamail was threatening to sue UT if they fired Brown. In fact, Jamail negotiated a bigger buyout than Mack Brown was contractually afforded when he was eventually pushed out the door.

I don't think you people remember how this happened. ESPN showed the Longhorn football banquet live and when Mack Brown entered, he was heavily applauded.

Within minutes, the ticker announced that Saban had accepted Alabama's new contract extension.

Mack Brown saved the UT football program and for better or for worse, many powerful boosters were forever grateful (and loved him to death). He is a great guy.

It was definitely a bitch move for Mack to cockblock Saban then "resign" just a few weeks later. But make no mistake, if Mack Brown would've gone quietly, Saban would be coaching in Austin.


3down10
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
The problem with your story is Mack Brown was pushed out.



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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
Hence why I put "resigned" in quote marks. He was pushed out but did not want Saban to succeed him. He got his wish.

They would've had to fire him straight up to get Saban, and that would've been very messy.


3down10
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Hence why I put "resigned" in quote marks. He was pushed out but did not want Saban to succeed him. He got his wish.

They would've had to fire him straight up to get Saban, and that would've been very messy.




Yeah, that's all bull shite. You claim he had all this power and yet at the same time he was pushed out. He was fired, that is why he got a buyout.

He and Saban are friends. Mack Brown himself directly denied all this stuff saying that Nick Saban wasn't trying to get his job, it was all about his performance.

It's nothing more than Texas grandstanding while pretending to be more than they really are. This entire thing is just something some big mouth booster made up. Just like how Texas fans are always talking about how they can buy anything, but never do.

But sure, this school that can have anyone and boosters have so much pull in the process to broker back door deals with coaches and they end up with Charlie Strong.



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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
I didn't claim he had the power to avoid being pushed out, I claimed he had the power to avoid being straight-up fired to allow Saban to take over the program.

He had the most powerful booster as his personal attorney threatening to sue if he was fired, stopping such action cold. He gloated about that long enough to make Saban lose interest. This is all fact.

To clarify: Brown knew he was going to resign but made it perfectly clear he would have to be fired to allow Saban to take over, and that legal action would ensue.
This post was edited on 7/11 at 1:09 am


3down10
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I didn't claim he had the power to avoid being pushed out, I claimed he had the power to avoid being straight-up fired to allow Saban to take over the program.

He had the most powerful booster as his personal attorney threatening to sue if he was fired, stopping such action cold. He gloated about that long enough to make Saban lose interest. This is all fact.

To clarify: Brown knew he was going to resign but made it perfectly clear he would have to be fired to allow Saban to take over, and that legal action would ensue.


It's not fact because Mack Brown was fired. So you can't say someone had the power to avoid being straight up fired, when he was straight up fired.

And what the frick could any attorney do anyway? Coaches are fired all the time, the contract ends and the coach gets a buyout. Which is exactly what happened with Mack Brown. Attorney's aren't magic genies that grant wishes, there is literally no case.

Furthermore, Mack Brown denied it all.

And then on top of all this I'm supposed to believe that the coach being fired stopped the school from picking the best possible replacement so they could go on to end up with Charlie Strong instead.

How in the hell can you believe this shit? More importantly - why do Texas fans want to believe it so badly?
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thelawnwranglers
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
There was a quote about Saban being turn around artist. I have no clue but would think at the time his personality he might have been interested.

As he says he is too old now


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OldPete
Alabama Fan
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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I know personally, for a fact, that is not what happened. It is true that Mack Brown didnt want Saban in Austin but Texas was going to hire him anyway.

Do you know why it fell through? From what I'd read secondhand, I'd thought it was initially because Mack Brown didn't want to step down...and then when it leaked out, that was the final straw and Saban signed the extension at Bama...


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TideFaninFl
Alabama Fan
Member since Oct 2017
2127 posts

re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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But make no mistake, if Mack Brown would've gone quietly, Saban would be coaching in Austin.



Ah no...... Texas did contact Coach Saban and his agent. and Coach Saban listened, you are fooling yourself to think he would have left Alabama to go to Texas.

Coach Saban and his agent always listen to any offer (they would have listened to Weber State if they tried), but go to Texas, no. There is nothing Texas has or can offer that is better than Alabama (sorry)

But it is funny that you still think so....



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TheHarahanian
LSU Fan
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Member since May 2017
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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Mack Brown found out and held onto the job until Alabama gave Saban an extension. As soon as Saban got a raise, Brown resigned.


Longhorn fans should be furious at Mack Brown for putting his ego over the interests of their football program.


Rhino5
Atlanta Falcons Fan
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
19730 posts

re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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I don't think there was much to it. We've been seeing this story the entire time and it always gets rehashed and everyone claims Saban wanted this and that. It's always click/troll bait every time.

And yet the one thing that is consistent in all this is that Saban wasn't even involved.

Sexton is an agent. He represents many high profile coaches. He is going to be meeting with people constantly and they are going to talk about different coaches he represents.

Then loud mouth guy wants to look big and leaks out details of a private conversation(because nobody bullshites others). And what coach in the discussion is going to make the biggest headlines? The one that has caused a now 7 year old story to get rehashed year after year.

But I must admit this is probably the funniest version of it.


So I guess you’re calling former University of Texas Regent Tom Hicks a liar? Saban wanted be the first ever coach to win a championship at 3 different schools. The man’s ambitious, no need to get defensive about it.


TideFaninFl
Alabama Fan
Member since Oct 2017
2127 posts

re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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Nah. We have a lot more than $. Location, academic prestige, the number one brand in college football, etc.


1) Money- a lot of schools have more money

2) Location- that is laughable since everybody thinks they have location

3) Academic Prestige- A UT degree is valuable, in Texas, outside it is just another college degree. If an EE from Texas, EE from Washington, EE from Auburn, EE from Rutgers applied for job in the NE, the Rutgers graduate would get it, in the NW, the Washington graduate would get it, etc.

4) Number one brand in college football-

Thanks for making my day.


By the way, I have Texas-Exs in my family and even they do not agree with you (and they graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Texas.) They had trouble getting jobs outside Texas.


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TideFaninFl
Alabama Fan
Member since Oct 2017
2127 posts

re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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So I guess you’re calling former University of Texas Regent Tom Hicks a liar?



Oh I do not think Hicks was a liar, I think he really thought Coach Saban would come. I would say he was more delusional about what Texas had to offer.



Windy City
Texas A&M Fan
Member since Jun 2019
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re: Saban tried to leave for Texas, but Texas said, "no"
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So I guess you’re calling former University of Texas Regent Tom Hicks a liar?


I am not sure why Tom Hicks should be viewed as some straight shooter. He has always been a dodgy business guy. I was working overseas with a bunch of Liverpool fans when he took over the squad. Everyone of the guys called Hicks and his clan a huge liar and the worst thing to ever happen to the club.

Tom Hicks Liverpool Bankruptcy

Read about his prevarications, dodges, and sleazy tactics he employed while running the Rangers into bankruptcy.

Hicks Rangers Bankruptcy

He is just off a failed attempt to sell his $20 Million dollar Dallas estate for $120 Million. He has always been an attention whore with an active PR staff and dubious ethics.

Stack him on top of a used car sales guy in Red McCombs and an ambulance chasing legal parasite like Joe Jamail and you have pretty good insight into the Longhorn alumni culture.


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